Author Topic: Need help, overclocking question....... (Read 884 times)

eagl · « **Reply #15 on:** November 14, 2004, 03:26:51 PM »

Here is a link to a rank-ordered list of some heatsinks. Look closely at the notes however because they use various fans and some of them are very loud.

http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/socketA.asp

This is probably about as good as you'll get. It takes a 92mm fan and frozencpu also has this HSF at the same price. It is lighter than the SLK series.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-109-120&depa=0

Thermalright lists these retailers:

http://www.thermalright.com/where_default.htm

This site has a bunch of thermalright heatsinks plus other brands.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/scan/se=CPU%20Cooling/se=Thermalright/mp=menu_search.html

Here's a cheaper alternative that will probably still work pretty well.

http://www.3dcool.com/Details.asp?cid=22&id=548

Do NOT get the delta fans unless you do not want to be able to hear anything but that fan. They are extremely loud. I suggest an 80 or 92mm fan that has a manual speed adjustment.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 14, 2004, 11:50:36 PM »

Thanks for the links! Especially the testing, that one is getting some hard looks before I make my final decision. I'm going to have to break down and order new RAM I suppose, even though I just spent 175 bucks on this stuff. Maybe I'll use these in the one I'm building for my brother, he doesnt do much gaming.

The processor runs stable and very well at full 200mhz FSB, giving me a 2300 mhz processor. The RAM just cant keep up. I wish I had known this before, but live and learn. Until I can get a new heatsink and fan, I pulled the ole "take the sides off and blow a desk fan into it" trick. Processor at 2300mhz is running 102F degrees. Warmer during the day of course, but its still not much more than 120F degrees max. I appreciate the advice.

Thanks.

SA2

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2004, 05:34:51 PM »

Just an update, and a thanks for the info. I didnt get quite what I wanted, but I'm not allowed to complain about it.

I visited several sites getting prices and had written down specs on different heatsinks so I could compare to other brands I might find on the websites I was looking at for pricing. The wife decided to do something nice and buy one for me as a surprise. It's a Thermaltake Silent Boost K7 (which apparently is related to the Volcano line they put out, but not quite the same). It has an 80mm fan running at 2500 rpm and keeps the OC'd 2600+ at 49 degrees Celcius (120 degrees Farenheit). I'm a little depressed with the results, given that ambient is about 25C in the room, and inside the case is around 35C. She just went to the local computer store and bought what they gave her. Since it works .... mostly ....... I feel a little guilty about wanting to take it back, so I'll probably keep it and smile.

Thanks again for the help.

SA2

schizer · « **Reply #18 on:** November 23, 2004, 08:17:38 PM »

Did you use any Artic Sliver ? If not you should....decreased my temps 10C

maddog · « **Reply #19 on:** November 23, 2004, 11:52:40 PM »

If its inside the case how she gonna know?

schizer · « **Reply #20 on:** November 24, 2004, 06:28:40 AM »

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Originally posted by maddog
If its inside the case how she gonna know?

It was a question asking if he/she HAD put it on.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 24, 2004, 10:56:58 AM »

Yeah, actually I did use it. When I had my XP 1800+ in there I had an aluminum heat sink with a tiny fan (came with the processor) and it had the sticky pad on the bottom. I thought those pads were so cool compared to the messy junk they sold in the computer stores and that came with my 2600 when I bought it. I learned REAL fast those pads dont work well for hotter processors. Once I started paying attention to what that "junk" did for me, I bought the best I could find thereafter (which so far has been Arctic Silver). Thanks for the tip though.

Griego · « **Reply #22 on:** November 29, 2004, 10:41:19 PM »

I read some where that artic silver should only be used for applications that are temporary. and the pad should be used for a more permanent applications.

just passing on some advice of an overclocking mag.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 29, 2004, 10:47:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Griego
I read some where that artic silver should only be used for applications that are temporary. and the pad should be used for a more permanent applications.

just passing on some advice of an overclocking mag.

Try over clocking with a stupid sticky pad on ... it transfers heat about as fast as abestoes ... Id like to see that artical .

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #24 on:** November 29, 2004, 11:24:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Griego
I read some where that artic silver should only be used for applications that are temporary. and the pad should be used for a more permanent applications.

just passing on some advice of an overclocking mag.

LOL, what Rosco said. If it really said that, I wouldn't waste my time reading that magazine ever again because they haven't got a clue.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2004, 12:27:36 AM »

Are you sure that article wasnt a joke? I tried one of those pads on my 2600 even before I overclocked it, and I thought I was going to fry the processor. Even not knowing a darn thing about whats what with keeping things cool inside my case (although I'm learning quick), I knew the pads were pretty much useless for anything generating real heat. I'll give you the "permanent" tag though. Getting those suckers off the bottom of the heat sink is a pain in the arse.

Now that the Arctic Silver and the Thermaltake K7 heatsink have had a chance to get to know the computer a bit, things have cooled down. If I want to run it with the sides off, it stays steady at 46C, all buttoned up with the fans running its at 48C-49C. Of course, the A/C is out in the office right now, and my case temps are 39C. Once my ambient temps go back down, I should be seeing CPU temps of around 45-46C. Thats with my former 1.91 Ghz Athlon XP 2600+ 333FSB now running at 2.35 Ghz and a 400FSB.

I swapped the 2500 rpm fan that came on the heatsink for a 5000 rpm unit. The heatsink fan now moves 75cfm instead of 29cfm. I now have 2 80mm fans running at 2500 rpm and moving about 29cfm each in the front of the case, under my CD-ROM drive. I have a smaller fan also running at 2500 rpm and moving about 15cfm in the bottom of the case. These all suck air into the case and blow it across the video card and the CPU heatsink. Then right behind the heatsink I have another one of the 80mm 75cfm fans exhausting air out of the case. I'm off by 2cfm of having a balanced air intake/exhaust system. Dangit.

38ruk · « **Reply #26 on:** November 30, 2004, 09:13:43 PM »

did i read that right ... you have your AGP slot clocked at 100mhz?? im suprised the slot hasnt burned up yet if it is .... 38

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #27 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:22:07 PM »

38RUK,
my suggestion almost 3 weeks ago. I am surprised something hasn't burned up.

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Originally posted by DAVENRINO
I suggest you set the AGP back to 66 ASAP and PCI to 33 if it isn't already.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2004, 10:40:39 PM »

its an ole toasty nite in the stack tonight ...

SoA may have already toasted his ram ... he corrupted bolth hard drives already ....

So back to square one ... overclocking 101.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 01, 2004, 04:39:54 PM »

Hehe. Actually the RAM is working good. I did have to replace what I had before, but I wasnt pushing it after I tried the first time. It turned out to be faulty. The hard drive issue wasn't heat related as far as I can tell, it was stupidity related (which in my case can be from the same thing sometimes, but not in this case). I just didnt understand the problems relating to installing WindowsXP on a blank HD. I am certainly in the lower part of the novice ranks when it comes to overclocking, I wont deny that. Every day I learn something new, either from the posts here or from info I dig up on my own searching for answers.

Guy came last night and fix my A/C, so finally I can see what's what for real. Processor temp holds steady at 45C-46C. Thats running at 2.35 Ghz. I could probably push more, but I'm happy with what I've got and its stable. HD issues are solved, better quality RAM installed, cooling fans are working like they should.