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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2004, 07:47:44 AM »
There are about 53 million in England and Wales (the Scotish and NI figures are compiled seperately)

The murder rate per 100,000 people is 1.6 in England and Wales, 5.7 in the US.

That's for all murder and manslaughter in England and Wales, but excludes manslaughter due to negligence in the US, so the US rate would be higher under British counting rules, the England and Wales rate lower under US counting rules.

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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2004, 07:48:50 AM »
Muck, check this.

Tables 1.1, 1.2, 1.3

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2004, 07:54:30 AM »
The percentage of the population that suffered "contact crime" in England and Wales was 3.6 percent, compared with 1.9 percent in the United States and 0.4 percent in Japan.

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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2004, 09:16:48 AM »
nahwan... you are wrong on at least one thing... the bobbies in your country never were armed even when a sustantial portion of your population was... it was at one time a law that citizens were r3equired to use deadly force to stop a fellon or aid a policeman.  It has nothing to do with them feeling that there is so few people armed.


I don't think this one incident is cause for panicky laws being passed... that is the liberal way.... if I were a liberal tactician with an agenda to get armed police I would use my friends in the media to make this one event the most important thing on the news with politicians and weeping family members and a call to do something instantly to "stop the slaughter"

much as the liberals did in england and australia to pass draconian gun control laws after one isolated crazy person went on a shooting rampage.

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2004, 09:32:28 AM »
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nahwan... you are wrong on at least one thing... the bobbies in your country never were armed even when a sustantial portion of your population was... it was at one time a law that citizens were r3equired to use deadly force to stop a fellon or aid a policeman.  It has nothing to do with them feeling that there is so few people armed.
I don't know which site Google directed you to in order to find this, because it sure doesn't sound like the Britain my grandparents knew and told me about.

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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2004, 10:12:05 AM »
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nahwan... you are wrong on at least one thing... the bobbies in your country never were armed even when a sustantial portion of your population was...


I'm not so sure about that. They weren't issued firearms, but were free to carry them if they wanted.

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« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2004, 02:51:23 PM »
the data is rfrom Joyce lee Malcolms book "Guns and Violence the English Experiance"  

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