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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2004, 04:09:36 PM »
KRUSTY the CLOWN:

"Hey, yutz! Guns aren't toys. They're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face."

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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2004, 04:15:27 PM »
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Originally posted by eagl
The funny thing about the Prince's statements is that he's absolutely correct.  He's railing against people who have no training, skill, or qualifications, saying they have the same right to hold difficult or high paying jobs as someone who is better trained, better educated, has more skill, or who has put in the time to become qualified to do that specific job.


I've seen very highly educated persons who shouldn't run anything bigger than a lawn mower but then again I've seen guys who practically speaking didn't had any education but were capable to run departments having 70-100 employees.
Then again he had me and my co-worker as his sidekicks running our shifts... :D

I'd say education gives better chances to succeed in the task but it's not all; it's up to person himself if he's having motivation and skills to motivate his/her subordinates, if he/she is capable to handle problematic situations and not being a person who's office hours are from 8 to 16...
Heh my longest shift was 24h and longest period without any free days was about one month... but I had money ;D

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2004, 04:34:11 PM »
Sorry Staga, but the most positive and motivated person in the world can't do my job without a minimum of 2 years of training backed up by at least a quality high school education.  It just doesn't work that way.  

You're beating the socialist liberal drum, that anyone who cares enough can do anything and be good at it.  It's the same false premise that the US Democratic party has hung their hat on for the last couple of decades.  The fact remains that an ignorant but motivated person, even if they're highly intelligent, simply can't accomplish what a person who is just as motivated but is also properly trained and educated can do.  No amount of activism or "xxxx rights" parades will change the fact that if you're stupid or ignorant, you'll never really be qualified or able to do those "elite" jobs.

That's why fighter pilots get a good laugh when jealous people say they could do our job and they'd accept half the pay.  When we put those same people in the jet and show them our job, they usually puke their guts out.  And then when we offer them the chance to work a 14 hour day with us, they politely decline and go back to their 8 hour a day job and tell their co-workers that flying is cool but pilots are a bunch of elitist bastards.  They can't do our job, and most of them wouldn't even if they could.  You have no idea how refreshing it is to talk to people who realize that flying isn't their thing.  But for the rest, it's fun to take shots at us because part of our job is very cool.  The world is full of jealousy and the socialist liberals spread it around like butter on toast.

When the unskilled equality-mongers manage to worm their way into my job, they're just going to end up dead faster.  Hopefully they won't take anyone else out when they kill themselves.  People may be born equal, but natural talent, training, and education soon sort out who's going to really make it in the world and who isn't.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2004, 04:40:02 PM by eagl »
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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2004, 05:21:21 PM »
Sorry Eagl; I didn't knew we were discussing just about your work :)

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2004, 05:39:47 PM »
Heh staga, that's just an example and you know it.  You could say the same thing about being a doctor, lawyer (ugh), even a construction worker.  When I get my roof replaced, I want a guy who's made it his life's work to run a roofing company to do my roof, not some highschool dropout looking for a charity job because he thought school was a drag.  When I look at a cop on the corner or on the beat, I want it to be a big bruiser of a cop, not some equal-rights quota weakling with bad vision and no ability to take care of themselves in a conflict let alone protect and serve the public.

Take ANY important job, and honestly ask yourself if you think an unqualified, untrained, or unskilled person should get that job for no other reason than they mean well or are highly motivated.  My answer is no.  If someone isn't suited or prepared for that job, and they're not willing or even ABLE to be properly prepared for that job, they have absolutely no business holding that job.  That's not elitism, that's being realistic.
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« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2004, 06:32:35 PM »
Storm in a teacup. As Eagl points out if you actually bother to read what he said it makes sense. Whether he should be saying it in his position is another thing, but Charles has always believed that he should state his opinions rather than remain silent.