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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2004, 07:41:44 AM »
I wonder if games like Midtown Madness, Colin McRae Rally & others should be banned too?
After all terrorists could learn how to drive a car-bomb by playing those.

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Re: Boeing Flight Manuals - wierdness
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2004, 08:48:32 AM »
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I've noticed a lot of boeing flight manuals being posted in the newsgroups lately, latest is the 747-400. Anybody else find this unusual (and unnerving)?


I kinda get the idea, but then again... What really is 'unnerving' about an aircraft manual? If you want to understand how a flap drive works, more power to you. Be good insomniac reading I'd guess. It doesn't bother you does it?

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2004, 09:00:04 AM »
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I kinda get the idea, but then again... What really is 'unnerving' about an aircraft manual? If you want to understand how a flap drive works, more power to you. Be good insomniac reading I'd guess. It doesn't bother you does it?


Ya know Creamo, I kinda feel the same way in some ways, and in others I do not.  I mean does it really hurt to know how the flap drive works, thicknesses or where a station jont is, or even the layout of the new cockpit door reinforcements?   I agree the flight manual does not have that in it, but the E + M does, not to mention the availability of drawings and other publications that will provide all the ifo on where to place a 1/4 ball of demo and whammo, yet another aircraft and several hundred souls goes up in smoke.  


Do I think censorship is the answer, No, do I know the answer to this problem... No!  Is it increased security, better overseas relations, the annihilation of certain groups?   I do not know, and I would  definitely say the answer is above my pay grade... hopefully someone knows, because otherwise history is going to repeat itself.
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Re: Boeing Flight Manuals - wierdness
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2004, 09:28:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I've noticed a lot of boeing flight manuals being posted in the newsgroups lately, latest is the 747-400. Anybody else find this unusual (and unnerving)?
The idea that anyone would want to read a boeing flight manual for fun is extremely unnerving. But after you've been on over 100 internet sites, you realize that most people online have their unnerving ways.
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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2004, 10:23:06 AM »
Bohdi, the answer is to stop the insane paranoia, and get back to living in America like it was.

The 'boogeyman' terrorist isn't going to find a weak link in an aircraft structure from a 747 manual online, then use his chemistry degree to whip up an optimal explosive to compromise the aircraft structure at some sweet spot.  Those turds couldnt bake a cake, they would just load a boombox with explosives, put it in the cargo bay, and hope for the best.

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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2004, 11:30:54 AM »
Personally, I think that having maps of the US creates an unbearable risk to our future.  

Think of it, any terrorist can walk down to the store, buy a guide that shows EXACTLY where various infrastructure items like roads, gas stations, federal buildings, etc are!  My god, they can even find LIBRARIES on these maps, and a Library is just another word for 'commie liberal instructions for building bombs'-place.

Not only that, but let's step back another level and look at the highway system.  There are big 'H' signs on the freeway where I live that POINT YOU TO HOSPITALS!  Terrorists could slaughter THOUSANDS just by targetting a building full of people who are already weakened (probably by oppressing others around the world) people, not to mention lines of PURE OXYGEN!  Get rid of the 'H' signs and cloak hospitals as business towers and malls so that the terorrists can't target them.

Another thing that disturbs me is the whole '911' concept.  Since this number is well known, there's nothing to stop terrorists from launching denial of service attacks against our emergency responders!  One house full of liberty hating terrorists could tie up police and fire departments for hours, the result of which could be block after block of burned buildings because normal house fires BLAZED OUT OF CONTROL!  Why?  Because Johnny Firefighter was trying to deal with a HUNDRED fake fires when one REAL fire was spreading!

Aaaarrgh!  I can't take it any more!  First they're reading the airplane manuals, then they're plotting with maps, finally they're DESTROYING AMERICA by using our infrastructure against itself!

If you don't object to this obvious terrorist threat of airplane manuals becoming available, then you JUST DON'T GET IT!  If you don't report this to the FBI, then you're DRIVING WITH BIN LADEN!
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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2004, 11:36:03 AM »
I can just see you all-american confident tough guys laugh down concerns about people having pocket knives on airliners before 911...  

What can you do with only knives... LOL...

:rofl :rofl

Right? That would have been the response?  :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: December 06, 2004, 11:38:07 AM by GRUNHERZ »

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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2004, 12:04:03 PM »
This is rediculous.  Say the US bands Boeing Flight Manuals.  What's to stop the terrorist from getting them from another country?  Or is Boeing not going to export thier product any more?  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2004, 12:24:07 PM »
Grunny,

What is your solution?  How badly do you want to **** up America and its civil liberties in order to quell your fear of terrorism?

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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2004, 12:26:04 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I can just see you all-american confident tough guys laugh down concerns about people having pocket knives on airliners before 911...  

What can you do with only knives... LOL...

:rofl :rofl

Right? That would have been the response?  :rolleyes:


You miss the point GRUN. 9/11 is over, lessons learned. It was a wake up call, sure. But measures have been taken.

If you brought a pocket knife on a flight and tried to take it over, I'd just beat you up and stick the pocket knife up yer arse. The pilots behind the new security cockpit doors wouldn't know till I was done whipping your ass. Now take 100 people that feel the same way. You get the picture.

So how to protect us from the next innovative attack?

Certainly not from taking my rights away.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2004, 12:29:27 PM by Creamo »

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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2004, 04:58:27 PM »
Entertaining though all of this debate is. If any of you think you can learn to fly a 747-400 or any commercial airliner by using a flight manual downloaded from the internet then you are sadly mistaken. It isn't that easy. Nor can you learn by flying Flightsim 2004.  

Apart from anything else the likelyhood of any terrrorist attempting to repeat 9/11 is slim and it's chance of success is zero.  So hysterical debates or ranting. serves no purpose other than the entertain the rest of us.

As creamo says you should be more worried about the next innovative attack if that ever comes, which I personally doubt.

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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2004, 05:28:08 PM »
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Originally posted by mora
What is even more disturbing, is the fact that flight simulator programs are still sold freely. A first step in removing this threat should be a banning of the complex ad-on aircrafts for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Why would anyone but a terrorist need these programs?

We all need to make sacrifices in the war on terror. :)


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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2004, 07:36:05 PM »
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Originally posted by Creamo


So how to protect us from the next innovative attack?

Certainly not from taking my rights away.


You mean like your right to take a pocket knife onto an airliner?

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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2004, 08:02:07 PM »
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You mean like your right to take a pocket knife onto an airliner?


What about a gun if I want to protect myself?

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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2004, 08:12:17 PM »
I imagine those were banned after some innovative criminal decided to use the gun to make miscief on the plane...