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Offline Ack-Ack

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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2004, 03:37:36 AM »
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I also read somewhere that Karzai considers fighting the opium drug cartels more important than finding Osama Bin Laden.   I hate to see OSB free and unpursued.   He must be laughing his prettythang off at us.



Afghanistan is again the #1 producer of raw opium in the world and it is also the #1 generator of funds for the outlawed Taliban and some other renegade warlords like the one that allied himself with the Taliban.  Cut that off and you cut off a major source of funds for the Taliban and the various renegade warlords.

Personally, it seems like the leaders of this country have given up on trying to find bin Laden, why else would we start to reduce the numbers we have in Afghanistan?  If we haven't gotten into that B.S. that was the Iraq War and instead concentrated on the real threat and used the resources we wasted on Iraq for Afghanistan things might have been different.


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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2004, 04:46:10 AM »
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No, I remember watching him say it, perhaps during one of the debates.  He talked about praying to God and then saying that God told him to invade.  

George Bush is a born again Christian.  Are you surprised he said that?


You remember watching him say that, but according to my search, it is what Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas said that Bush told him in a private interview.

Either your memory is hazy, or sorry for questioning you Mr. Prime Minister.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2004, 04:53:41 AM »
Or, Choice C:  He made the statement again at a televised interview.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2004, 04:58:18 AM »
Got a source for that?  My search brought up nothing of the sort.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2004, 05:05:36 AM »
First hand account as told by author.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2004, 05:11:31 AM »
I would have though that a clip of him saying that would have been played ad infinitum by Move-On during the campaign...  Or in Moore's 9-11...  guess they missed it.
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2004, 05:26:41 AM »
You dont have to be a genius to tell that Bushy is christian fanatic.
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2004, 05:33:17 AM »
He's just a little more politically astute that many give him credit for.

I'm sure he remembers the flak that Hillary got for imagining conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt.  Her's was a fairly innocent statement that got blown way out of proportion. Had Bush made such a statement on camera the press would have followed suit and we would never have heard the end of it.
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2004, 05:54:15 AM »
Hillary was never a president, George is.

I don't mind at all that George is a Christian, but the mixing of politics and religion is not a good thing.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2004, 06:05:55 AM »
They are both in the political arena, the parallel applies.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--"

The mixing of religion and politics happens whether we like it or not, as both are mirrors of society.  We just need the wisdom to understand that we should allow each other to believe the way we believe.  That the civil rules we adopt do not stomp our respective beliefs.

Even though I am agnostic I can still respect the Pope's thoughts.
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« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2004, 06:13:02 AM »
Im also an agnostic and I can even accept that we have a priest as a PM. My problem with George in this matter is that he uses his religion activly in his career as a president and uses it as a political tool.
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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2004, 06:15:27 AM »
I doubt Bondevik leaves his beliefs at the office door.
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2004, 06:20:02 AM »
He does actually. He never mentions his belives or talks about god at all when doing his job.
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 06:24:50 AM »
Perhaps he would be more declarative of his beliefs if he were trying to get Baptists from Alabama to support him.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 06:32:24 AM »
lol maybe :D

The conservative christian partys most extreme view is that they are against abortion, and there is even some debate about that within their own ranks so you can just imagine how liberal that party really is.
When we are used to very liberal christians then you can just imagine how shocked we get over here when we listen to the rather extreme (for us) american christian "preaching".

-edit- oh, and we have our very own "bible belt" down south were the christians are very hardcore :D
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