By the way, the new Afghan president

[oboe]

Originally posted by Tinpot
Sorry but I think fighting the drug trade is a much higher priority than Osama.

No apology necessary, Tinpot.   As I understand it the drug cartels in Afghanistan are another U.S. caused problem, in that the Taliban had them crushed but they sprung up again after U.S. forces ousted their regime.   I agree drugs are an insidious problem, and the cartels need to be wiped out.

But I would like Mr George Bush to stand up and do what he originally said he was going to do, which was capture Osama Bin Laden and bring him to justice.   I don't see why both goals can't be accomplished, except that it appears the U.S. has just given up on it.    How sad that we let a madman like that commit such a horrendous attack and then just let him get away.

[Lizking]

If you define "Cartel" as a bunch of broke-dick farmers trying to survive, then yes, the "cartels" are back in business.  If we were allowed to shoot and kill drug dealers on sight, we too could eliminate the scourge of drugs, jst like the Taliban.

[Suave]

How much of the opium is goes to legal buyers ? Seriously, I don't know.

[Lizking]

None.

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Lizking
None.

Cant be true. Some countries do not wage war on drugs much less a fake war on drugs..

[Furious]

legalize it and let our farmers make that money.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Lizking
So did the vote cover the country or was it Kabul?

The whole country.  Be Canada could elect someone to be President of the US and it wouldn't mean squat because we couldn't inforce it.  The Afghani government taking control of the entire country is an ongoing process.

[Raider179]

1. The quote by bush about god telling him to invade is true. (he has never denied saying it but you can find it on net)

2. It is not the same as the president swearing to god. It would be more along the lines of  I sweat to defend christianity or whatever religion.

3. The opium that is used by all the "evil" warlords to generate funds for the "taliban",. you know who else grows poppy over there. Our "allied warlords" if you take their money away they are not gonna help us if what you call what they do help.

[WhiteHawk]

Originally posted by oboe
.   All the money we spent invading Afghanistan and toppling the Taliban regime will have been wasted.   .

I just wish Bush would follow through on his promise to find Osama and bring him to justice.  


No doubt fighting the opium drug cartels is important from our point of view, however I wouldn't be surprised if Karzai starts waging a long, halfhearted and ineffective battle against them, since their profits support radical Islam.

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Relax, oboe.  Politicians lie all the time.  Especially US appointed ones.  Theres oil in them thar hills.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Raider179
1. The quote by bush about god telling him to invade is true. (he has never denied saying it but you can find it on net)

I looked for quite some time.  I was unsuccessful in finding this true statement.  Perhaps you could provide us with a link.

[Raider179]

Cant get the whole article without subsribing I think but here is the link

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/352330421.html?did=352330421&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&date=Jun+27%2C+2003&author=Al+Kamen&desc=Road+Map+in+the+Back+Seat%3F


here is another link to the rest of the colum but unsure of its accuracy but seems correct.

http://www.unknownnews.net/insanity7.html

[Holden McGroin]

Your link refers to what  Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Abu Mazen says Bush told him.

Generally, hearsay is not accepted as proof.

[TheDudeDVant]

Holden, after you get done looking for links and if you have time, will you look at my question in the 55years thread and tell me if you know any of it?

[Holden McGroin]

Dude, generally those accused of felonies have a jury trial unless the accused requests a trial by judge.  Mandatory sentances take away descretion of the penalty from judges and juries.    

I don't know why you should request this of me in this thread, my point throughout this thread is that the statement attributed to Bush is accepted as fact by many without proof.  

Had Bush said it on tape, within earshot of witnesses, or repeated it to others, it would have been covered much more thoroughly, but as far as I can ascertain, only one person says that GWB ever said it, without corroboration.

[Raider179]

I have never seen a statement from the white house or anything else where Bush said it is not true. I have on the other hand seen it on the cover of numerous books about his presidency though.

oh and FYI I dont require the same "proof" as a court of law.