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« on: December 08, 2004, 09:44:11 AM »
French police misplace passenger bag in which plastic explosive placed for bomb-sniffer dog training
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Saturday, December 4, 2004
(12-04) 13:06 PST PARIS (AP) --

Police at Paris' top airport lost track of a passenger's bag in which plastic explosives were placed to train bomb-sniffing dogs, police said Saturday. Warned that the bag may have gotten on any of nearly 90 flights from Charles de Gaulle, authorities searched planes upon arrival in Los Angeles and New York.

French police said the explosives were harmless and there was no chance of their going off, since no detonators were connected to them.

More than 300 passengers were evacuated and their luggage searched when their Air France flight from Charles de Gaulle arrived in Los Angeles late Friday the U.S. Transportation Security Administration said

Two Air France and one American Airlines flight to Paris were also searched in New York City, TSA spokesman Norm Brewer said. No explosives were found on any of the flights.

French police at Charles de Gaulle deliberately placed up to five ounces of plastic explosives into a passenger's luggage Friday evening, police spokesman Pierre Bouquin said.

But a "momentary lack of surveillance" led to the bag being lost on a conveyor belt carrying luggage from check-in to planes, he said.

Authorities immediately alerted the relevant airlines that one of between 80 and 90 planes that left the French capital from 5:30 p.m. to 7 p.m. Friday could be carrying the explosives, Bouquin said.

Four of the flights were en route to the United States, while others were headed to places like Japan and Brazil, Bouquin said. Some were domestic French flights. The flight searched in Los Angeles was delayed two to three hours before continuing on its next leg to Tahiti in the South Pacific.

"These dogs must be trained in the most realistic situation possible ... to be the most effective," Bouquin said.
"Indeed, it's possible that someone will have a surprise when he opens his bag."

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 09:47:41 AM »
A story about the french.... from JBA ???

shocking!

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 09:52:35 AM »
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A story about the french.... from JBA ???

shocking!


First read the article, try that  before you start with your crap. I was reading this story as I sat waiting for a flight with my family on it.

But you have to be amazed that they put plastic in an unsuspecting passengers bag. This person has no idea it's there. Well done. FOOLS:aok

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to bad it's full of french.;)
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 09:58:20 AM »
"What were they thinking?"

Yeah, why the heck did they left detonators away from those explosives?

Anyways everybody knows explosives don't kill people, people kill people.

btw military grade explosives are really idiot proof to use; you can shoot them, burn them, you can throw them safely around the room... It's not like in Hollywood movies where little hit is enough to blow them up... of course I got my training in eighties; maybe these new ones are like in Hollywood movies :)

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 11:26:22 AM »
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btw military grade explosives are really idiot proof to use; you can shoot them, burn them, you can throw them safely around the room... It's not like in Hollywood movies where little hit is enough to blow them up... of course I got my training in eighties; maybe these new ones are like in Hollywood movies :)


true, they are very safe.  a guy could safely pick up his bag, take it home find the explosives, and safely carry them to the point of sale.  then the new owner can carry them with complete confidence that they won't be accidentally going off until he reaches his target and attach's detonators.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2004, 11:35:11 AM »
It was 4 days ago ... the bag is lost in limbo or the recieving airport security suck equally.

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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 11:41:26 AM »
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true, they are very safe.  a guy could safely pick up his bag, take it home find the explosives, and safely carry them to the point of sale.  then the new owner can carry them with complete confidence that they won't be accidentally going off until he reaches his target and attach's detonators.


How hard is it to buy explosives in US? All I have to do is have a story about rocks I need to get rid of and I'll get a licence to buy them from local police station. I don't think it could be much harder in US?
Anyways I wouldn't have to buy them from any stranger;I could just walk in hardware store and buy enough to blow up anything I could think of.
Thinkin one missing suitcase with little RDX is a problem for national security is quite long shot...

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2004, 11:43:25 AM »
btw I couldn't find how much explosives was in that suitcase?

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 11:51:19 AM »
I've heard 150 gram  but I'm not really sure it's the correct amount.

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 11:57:16 AM »
Straffo, it is the correct amount.

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 12:08:46 PM »
WW2 German Stielhandgranate had more explosives in it.
Sure you could blow up a airliner with that amount but like I said explosives are easy to buy; if someone wants to blow up something I bet he can buy them.

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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 01:34:17 PM »
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true, they are very safe.  a guy could safely pick up his bag, take it home find the explosives, and safely carry them to the point of sale.  then the new owner can carry them with complete confidence that they won't be accidentally going off until he reaches his target and attach's detonators.


OR.....

the poor schmuck could get to his next destination and could be locked up for carrying explosives on the plane.  All it takes is an acusation and the man could lose his job/way of life.

Some countries don't exactly beleive that Due Proscess is a right.

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2004, 01:47:24 PM »
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"These dogs must be trained in the most realistic situation possible ... to be the most effective,"  


Must not be that effective if the dogs can't find it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2004, 01:49:40 PM »
They also put drugs into passenger bags to train drug dogs.  Bet you didn't know that, either!

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2004, 02:10:38 PM »
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OR.....

the poor schmuck could get to his next destination and could be locked up for carrying explosives on the plane.  All it takes is an acusation and the man could lose his job/way of life.

Some countries don't exactly beleive that Due Proscess is a right.


very true, and we are now one of those countries.

the guy would be a terrorist, an enemy combatant, not subject to the rights of due process.