Isn't it ironic.....

[Waffle]

That all the after all the monies spent on a top line computer, the joysticks and throttle controls, and extras like trackIR, ect..not to mention all the software you use to "fly" around in a virtual world -

you could've taken all those monies and gotten a real pilots license or even a sports pilots licencse?



Food for thought

[Flyboy]

but you couldnt shoot anyone

[lasersailor184]

Sure you could.  The question would be can you evade capture?

[BlueJ1]

Hmm...and have some of these kiddies in here turn out like the one that crashed his aircraft into an office building to protest the war in Afganistan. All thinking they can just reup another at a fiendly airfeild.

[mars01]

Not really, because once you set everything up you don't pay anymore ( not counting pc upgrades that maight need to happen every so many years).

Once you get your PPL, your not done spending.  Every time you fly you are spending.

So yes maybe some could have gotten their PPL but they might not be able to rent or buy a plane after that.

Also some that fly in the sim, might hate flying for real.  The radio work, the weather, the traffic, navigation, FAA, and on it goes.

Don't get me wrong, getting my PPL was the best thing I have ever done and a dream come true but it's not for everyone.

[kj714]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
That all the after all the monies spent on a top line computer, the joysticks and throttle controls, and extras like trackIR, ect..not to mention all the software you use to "fly" around in a virtual world -

you could've taken all those monies and gotten a real pilots license or even a sports pilots licencse?



Food for thought

My neighbors would be so po'd if I added a plane to all the other toys parked out front.

[JB73]

Originally posted by mars01
The radio work, the weather, the traffic, navigation, FAA, and on it goes..

thats why i am EXTREEMLY hesitant to even look into a PPL. i have absoultly no interest in navigating by beeps around the Milwaukee airport.

i just want to go to the country side and fly around looking at trees and hills.

[GreenCloud]

2 things...one


it costs a min of 5K $ to get PPL



two...if you spent 5K4 on your computer..you are a moron

[kj714]

One thing I have been a little interested in is ultralights. I see a lot of people out exploring the desert in them, always thought that looked like fun. Until the engine cuts and you've wandered miles from nowhere I guess.

How much does it cost generally to hangar, insure and  maintain a plane?

Wide open question I know, but what's it probably start at? I see little planes for 60k-70k that look nice enough to my uneducated eye, but what about all the other costs that go along with it?

[Waffle]

New sports pilot license is about 1/2 of what it cost to get a PPL.
From what I've seen - most PPL cost around $3-5k depending on school

[JB73]

Originally posted by kj714
One thing I have been a little interested in is ultralights. I see a lot of people out exploring the desert in them, always thought that looked like fun. Until the engine cuts and you've wandered miles from nowhere I guess.

How much does it cost generally to hangar, insure and  maintain a plane?

Wide open question I know, but what's it probably start at? I see little planes for 60k-70k that look nice enough to my uneducated eye, but what about all the other costs that go along with it?

i asked that same thing in this thread LOL

good answers there, and in a few other threads



http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123681&highlight=ultralight

[SunKing]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
That all the after all the monies spent on a top line computer, the joysticks and throttle controls, and extras like trackIR, ect..not to mention all the software you use to "fly" around in a virtual world -

you could've taken all those monies and gotten a real pilots license or even a sports pilots licencse?



Food for thought

Forgot the cost of the plane, gas, maintances and the possibilty of mechanical failure and death.


I'll stick with virtual flight... I can always reup.

[mars01]

Cost of planes - Anywhere from 20K for a Cessna 152 - 120MPH cruise, burns 6 gals and hour and holds 24 gals.

Piper Warrior 45K and up, performance is a little faster than 152 with better range.

Bonanza - Sweet ride - 50K to 250K average one does 180MPH cruise, burns 12 to 14 GPH, holds 60 gals.

Check out Barn Stormers (Planes for Sale)

Fixed costs vary for plane and location.  Tie down out side can run 50 to 200 bucks.  Hanger space 150 to 600 bucks a month.

Maitenance an be expensive.  Everything has to be done by and FAA approved Mechanic and any parts have to be FAA certified.  You cant just go out and buy a radio shack switch, so things are expensive.

Every year the plane goes through an annual inspection.  Mechanic tears down and inspects everything.  Normall just for the inspection you can spend 1K to 3K bucks, if anything is wrong it can get really expensive.

Then there are TBOs.  Times Before Overhauls.  Every engine has a specific recommended TBO.  After that time you have to remove the engine and send it out to be taken apart and rebuilt.  Some engines have a TBO of 2400 hours, some have a TBO of 1200 hours.  Overhauls can cost anywhere from 12k to 40k depending on the Engine and the plane.

Insurance can run anywhere from 1k to 2K up to 10k a year depending on time in type and total hours.

[Furball]

Originally posted by BlueJ1
Hmm...and have some of these kiddies in here turn out like the one that crashed his aircraft into an office building ... All thinking they can just reup another at a fiendly airfeild.

why did i think Jetb and Jay when i read that...

[rshubert]

Originally posted by Waffle BAS
That all the after all the monies spent on a top line computer, the joysticks and throttle controls, and extras like trackIR, ect..not to mention all the software you use to "fly" around in a virtual world -

you could've taken all those monies and gotten a real pilots license or even a sports pilots licencse?



Food for thought

Hafta disagree with you there, bro.

Ground school:  $250.00
Books:                $150.00
Headset:           $90.00
Airplane rental (55 hours at $62.00/hour)  $3575.00
Instructor     (35 hours at $22.00/hour)     $770.00


TOTAL  $4835.00

That was what it cost to get my Private Pilot's license.  The plane rental fee at my (then) airport was low, most c-172 rental rates are in the $75.00/hour range.

My current computer cost me $1200, I have a $100 thrustmaster setup, pedals would cost $300, a CH setup another $400, so let's say I could get into a high-end system for $3000 total, including everything.  And AH doesn't have an insurance cost associated with it.




shubie