Regarding Vulching

[KurtVW]

For anyone who doubts the validity of this method of killling I offer this quote from 'Duel of Eagles' by Peter Townsend.

'On June 30 a directive was issued, signed 'Goering, Commander-in-Chief.'  

'As long as the enemy air force is not defeated, the prime requirement is to attack [it]... by day and by night, in the air and on the ground, without consideration of other tasks'.

So, there it is, straight from the head honcho of the Luftwaffe.. On the air or on the ground until they are utterly destroyed.

No more cry baby garbage about 'wahh, I got vulched...'

We're under orders dang it!

[DREDIOCK]

Anytime your in a position where you might get shot at, and can be shot at, your fair game so far as Im concerned.

If you dont want to be vuched. Dont take off from a base under attack.
If you do, well thats your choice. I dont complain about vulchers when I get vulched and couldnt care less about those who complain about being vulched

[RTGorkle]

"So, there it is, straight from the head honcho of the Luftwaffe"

He only said that because they hadn't invented the bulletin board yet and therefore no whining.

[TexMurphy]

As a tactic vulching IS good.

But a game is more then just tactics. A game is, belive it or not, about having fun. Fun should never be had on the expence of another persons lack of fun.

Both players in an engagement have to have fun or eventually both will stop to have fun.

While its very effective tactics to vulch it is only and only fun for the one doing it, its never fun for the guy dieing to it.

One of the biggest reasons people eventually stop defending a base is because when the huge vulch sets down it aint fun anymore.

This leads up to the gigantic hoard hovering over a empty field with non to fight. Which aint fun either. Meaning your booored hanging there and the pilots who where defending have left because it wasnt fun.

So often does one see pilots leaving a hugly outnumbered base out of booredom and failed to even take it.

I mean what´s the point?

Id much rather see a base that is defended until the last dieing moments then one that is left undefended because it was vulched for 15min.

I as an attacker have more fun and the defender has more fun.

In war there is no fun factor. In war vulching is a great tactic.

Games are built on fun factor. In games any camping tactics are bad tactics.

Tex

[Grits]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
If you dont want to be vuched. Dont take off from a base under attack.
If you do, well thats your choice. I dont complain about vulchers when I get vulched and couldnt care less about those who complain about being vulched

Yup. I love going to a base that is capped, but not really tighty, and saying to the chickens sitting in the tower:

"OK, here is the plan, we all up IL2's and HO everything in sight."

When they all reject that plan because "it will never work", I do it and kill several vulchers. Watching me do this seems to get them motivated and they start upping too.

I do get angry when I get vulched, but I really only get angry at myself for getting myself in that situation, not at the guy that did it.

[Darkish]

Valid points Tex, but there is attrition to bear in mind.  The vulchee has an unlimited no of planes(or targets hehe) whereas the attackers only have 1.

You've got about 7 mins before the smart guys come in from an adjacent field and busts the CAP.  For field captures, base supression (vulching) is a must.

Some guys have fun through organised assault .... pilots in planes with a known job to do.  The thrill is getting the team to work, and it pays off in spades when it does.

Now, if you're on about 20 guys circling a field with the vh up and town untouched, I couldn't agree more - still it's a bit easier than killing the drones offline.

[Stang]

I have no problem with vulching.  What I do have a problem with is lemming timid score potatos who ONLY vulch, that you only find in those 10 plane packs at relatively undefended fields.  This is one thing that will get me going on ch200.

[Dead Man Flying]

Me vulching =

Someone vulching me =

Is everyone clear on that?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[koda76]

You call it vulching:mad:  I call It capping:aok

[mechanic]

i just shoot at the enemy, doesnt matter if he is on the ground, in the air, at sea, whatever. the enemy must die.

on the other hand, it does make you feel good when coming to a quiet base and seeing one single upper if you let him take off. honour and all that jingo. what is even better feeling is when you shoot him down, and he is mad so he ups again. and again


and again. he tries so hard to kill you but cannot as you have every advantage.

if you vulched him first time he might try another field. its always good to let some guy get a taste for the slightest chance of victory, and revenge. get more score padding kills and better pleasure than simple vulching.

on the other hand, theres nothing more enjoyable than seeing a formation of buffs taking off from a capped field. especially when you get all 3 in one pass

and if you should happen to stumble accross a big mission.....now thats any players headonism..

[Ack-Ack]

Vulching is one of the very few remaining art forms we have left.


ack-ack

[Stang]

No one shoots chutes anymore    

[Slash27]

What I do have a problem with is lemming timid score potatos who ONLY vulch,


And light out for home in thier N1K to go land 4 kills the second a defender gets up.

[Khyron]

Originally posted by KurtVW
'On June 30 a directive was issued, signed 'Goering, Commander-in-Chief.'  

'As long as the enemy air force is not defeated, the prime requirement is to attack [it]... by day and by night, in the air and on the ground, without consideration of other tasks'.
 

For that matter, Hap Arnold instructions, 27 December 1943, to the 8th and 15th Air Forces was, "Destroy the Enemy Air Force wherever you find them, in the air, on the ground and in the factories."  Similar instructions were issued to the Pacific forces by their respective leaders, for both the US and UK.  

So there you have it, the non-LW forces have similar instructions, notwithstanding Tex's very good point on playability issues.

[Furious]

Originally posted by Stang
No one shoots chutes anymore    

That is not technically true.  

While in fact I haven't actually shot and hit many chutes lately, I have been shooting at them.

That new silk is some amazing kevlar/concrete type stuff; found that out the hard way over and over.