Liberals and war

[NUKE]

Originally posted by greentail
Savage is not conservative? Actually, I don't think he is, but that is how he is IDed.

Hannity dodged Vietnam, I bleive.

As for Clinton, I think we must make a distinction here.

Clinton was a draft evader, yes. But he was actively against the war.

The Republicans on this list were all for the war, as long as it was someone else's butt doing the fighting.

There is a difference.

That's your problem....you don't even bother to check your facts.

Hannity was born in 1961., take off the list
Savage is not a conservative, take off the list

Also, take every name off the list that you have posted as a draft dodger then lets have a look at it.

[Neubob]

"Anyone who is under 30 and not a liberal has no heart. Anyone who is over 30 and not a conservative has no brain."--Winston Churchill.

U.S. Grant led the Union to victory, but proved to be a crappy president.
Lincoln, on the other hand, is widely acknowledged as one of our greatest leaders, and yet, for some odd reason, you just don't hear too much about his service record.

The fact is, there is no definite correlation between having been shot at, and successfully leading a nation. The reason there's any correlation at all is because men with military records often find it easier to transition into public office thanks in part to the inherent trust a positive service record provides in the public eye.

"All-American athlete, faithful servant during war, husband, father...Elect 'whomever' for 'whatever'.... It's a cookie-cutter approach to things but has proven to work--at least as far as getting them into office. Still doesn't mean a damned thing. I wouldn't trust Ted Kennedy with a plastic spoon.

What really sucks is that I'm fasting right now for a blood test tomorrow afternoon. HUngry as hell and can't sleep.

[Octavius]

I think Neubob has discovered the real issue here.

[Neubob]

That was cruel, Octavius... Oh, so very, very cruel.

[beet1e]

IN

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Neubob
"Anyone who is under 30 and not a liberal has no heart. Anyone who is over 30 and not a conservative has no brain."--Winston Churchill.

 

There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this.

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=112

[GRUNHERZ]

Where was all this left wing love and adoration for military service, especially during Vietnam it seems, in 1992 and 1996?

Or were you just trying to illustrate hypocrisy for us?

But of course there is your ridiculus reasoning..

"Clinton was a draft evader, yes. But he was actively against the war."

Nice, people whose politics you dont like who get legal defferements are "draft dodgers" - a higly specfic and inflammatory term but Clinton, whoose politics you do agree with who got a legal defferment gets the vague term "draft evader.."

Nice BS and hypocrisy...

Anyone can draw up a list of people from the two parties who both did and did not serve in the military. Simply juxtaposing these selective lists to make some idiotic point is meaningless, but you know that...

Damn I'm sure I just wasted 30 seconds of my life responding to this dumb post...

[Pooh21]

Originally posted by Neubob
"Anyone who is under 30 and not a liberal has no heart. Anyone who is over 30 and not a conservative has no brain."--Winston Churchill.


What really sucks is that I'm fasting right now for a blood test tomorrow afternoon. HUngry as hell and can't sleep.

Im 26, which means Im heartless! w00t!


Not only am I heartless I am also, eating, thick slices of juicy drippy bacon, yum yum, you can almost smell the bacony goodness,and  this afternoon, I am going to the christmas market in the city center, and have a flamebroiled whopper and an ice cold beer(german beer mind you.)


edit: or maybe a bratwurst, and glühwein, lots of glühwein

[1K0N]

3-A deferment is considered Draft dodging?

I seem to remember everyone eligible for the draft trying to get a 3-a deferment but what do I know I was only alive then...

Your spin is just that spin..... Go canvas some more cemetaries, if you start now you can really influence the next election because Mccain is going to win regardless of who you back for the dem party...

Nice Troll though!

IKON

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this.
 

I tend to agree. Liberal and Conservative mean different things in Britain.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by beet1e
I tend to agree. Liberal and Conservative mean different things in Britain.

That is true unto itself, but my point was, he never said it.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
That is true unto itself, but my point was, he never said it.

I know. I was just saying why I thought it was unlikely that he said it. By which I meant it's not something any English person would have said.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by beet1e
I know. I was just saying why I thought it was unlikely that he said it. By which I meant it's not something any English person would have said.

But if he did say it, it would actually be the opposite in England during the 40's and 50's, right?  I just want to understand better because the Democrat "left" party of the 1950's has significantly changed, however I might add so has the Republican right party, as now it seems in the 21st century that spending and big Gov't is making a strong comeback in the form of a Rupublican.

[Habu]

Originally posted by Octavius
I think Neubob has discovered the real issue here.

You know looking at the picture I have to wonder how smart the guy that took it is.

It is supposed to look like a steak cooking on a grill. Probably for some advertising. However there is no smoke at all and the grill is spotless. Also the grill marks on the steak are much closer together than the grill is.

Why doesn't he just used a plastic steak. Would look about as real.

[mietla]

Originally posted by beet1e
I tend to agree. Liberal and Conservative mean different things in Britain.

That may be, but it is still...

Liberal  = bad
Conservative = good


... right?  I hope