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« on: December 10, 2004, 10:11:58 AM »
I'm sure there have been a million threads about this but I don't get on here very much so I thought I would start my own.


This perfect day all day every day sim is getting stale.  I use to love to get up about 25k in a fighter and just fly through the clouds.  And nothing beats a dog fight up in the clouds when you really have to stalk your prey.   And what happened to ground level cross winds?  You do know that is it proven to be impossible for there to be NO wind at all in real life.  And night flying, I use to love it.... again having to really stalk your prey.

Have all of these been ripped from the sim for fear of new players not sticking around?  Does AHII have some fatal flaw that makes it run poorly when faces with the utter challenge of a cloud?  I swear if the sun never set I would go insane!!

Little info please.....

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 10:16:01 AM »
I miss clouds we used to have.  The ground is cool and all but the clouds meant more to me.

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2004, 10:29:34 AM »
On that old island map that shows up once in a while, there are clouds over the main middle island.  I always enjoys seeing them when I'm over that area.

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2004, 11:54:14 AM »
We should have the clouds and winds back. This is a flight "sim" after all right? These things were removed because of the whining little baby crowd, you know that don't you?

Bombers
they whined because the clouds would block their view of the ground targets.

they whined because the wind would throw off their bomb drops by a few yards and they couldn't hit anything. That was with the manually calibrated sights. I think with the new easy-mode sight again, wind should be brought back to make bombing not so easy again.

People with old systems
They whined because the clouds would kill their frame rates, so they couldn't play.

Newies
They just whine when anything isn't in easy mode. Clouds would make it hard for them to see the enemy

Wind would make them not fly straight when they left thier plane on autopilot for an hour.

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The night is a whole different topic.

The gamer crowd just turned up gamma so they could still see at night.
Another crowd would just log off until the sun came back up.

I HOPE that HTC makes some changes to the night so that it is effective and lasts longer.. Night could be awesome in TOD

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 01:11:41 PM »
I know it's just a matter of changing the settings.  Far be it for this game to be any more realistic than it already is. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 01:22:34 PM »
I'd like to see clouds, wind, and even rain brought back to AHII.  Low cloud cover or even fog would be cool. Fog would add an interesting aspect to ground vehicle operations and airfield operations to say the least. Imagine tank battles in a thick fog with no worries of enemy a/c... all you can see is muzzle flashes through the mist, then a hulk rumbles up at point blank range...Sneaking troops into a VH thru the fog...Then the fog lifts and the situation changes drastically.

However I remember several times flying a Lancaster for over an hour to get to a target only to discover it was covered by clouds in AHI. That was a real downer.

So here's a suggestion, bring back the weather, but add weather reports in the clipboard reports on base status. That way you could monitior the direction the weather is moving and know to divert to another  target or what to expect when you arrive,.

I'm not a pilot so don't know pilot lingo to describe the weather at an airport you are planning a flight to, but here's a possible example that you pilots can translate to pilot talk:

A34: Heavy Cloudcover at 10K, wind NNW @15 mph, weather front moving SSE.

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2004, 02:27:41 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 02:31:40 PM »
Repost of what I posted in the last thread.

I think it is (response to question, "is it too much trouble to add some clouds?"). I dont use the TE (terrain editor), so you'd have to ask someone who does for clarification, or ask Skuzzy or HT. From what I understand of the cloud issue, in AHII map designers cannot add clouds, as they aren't a function of the TE. That means that after the map is designed and submitted, and tested, and debugged, and retested, someone (read Hitech or Skuzzy or whoever) has to do the programming to add the clouds. And if you want drift, speed and direction and all of that has to be done with the programming as the clouds are completely separate from the wind and are not affected by it. And since the clouds are hardwired as part of the terrain, it would have to be done individually with each map. Given the fact that Pyro posted not too long past now that they are working hard on another patch for this version, plus the new version of AHII with updated planes, and working on the new TE..........................

I think they have enough to keep their relatively small crew busy for some time yet, let alone dropping everything to program some clouds so we can oooo and aaaah.

I'm not sure if programming clouds will be a function of the new TE or not. You can ask. It would be awesome if they made that available to map designers, or if they even made it a function you can turn on and off like wind, but that (making it like wind I mean) would probably need a redesign of the basic framework.

Patience Grasshopper.

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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2004, 05:07:31 PM »
Yeah, I have to agree that no weather and no night is getting very boring.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2004, 06:35:14 PM »
More beautiful/high detailed clouds plrease.....

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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2004, 07:00:36 PM »
yeah HTC y not put in night time??? sure there will be threads about no night i cant see and only noobs that turn their contrast up can only see, but w/e man just give it a shot :aok Im for the clouds,  and mabey some rain that effects the flying. Please HTC PLEASE!!!! everyone ive talked to about this wants it so why put it off?

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2004, 07:04:58 PM »
All this talk about pretty puffy clouds, how about some rain, snow and rough seas.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2004, 07:36:52 PM »
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Originally posted by BBQ_Bob
All this talk about pretty puffy clouds, how about some rain, snow and rough seas.


I don't think rough seas matter much in a 'flight' simulator... But I would love to see clouds more often DEFINITELY...  I like some wind too and Night is sorely missed by me, I would love that back.

Rain snow and other such particle effects would probably steal a lot of framerate so I don't know that I'd want that... Rain is hard to do, Microsoft has been trying to get it right for 20 years and they have a lot more resources to apply to their sim.

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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2004, 09:07:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Puff
This perfect day all day every day sim is getting stale.  I use to love to get up about 25k in a fighter and just fly through the clouds.  And nothing beats a dog fight up in the clouds when you really have to stalk your prey.   And what happened to ground level cross winds?  You do know that is it proven to be impossible for there to be NO wind at all in real life.  And night flying, I use to love it.... again having to really stalk your prey.

Have all of these been ripped from the sim for fear of new players not sticking around?  
If they were ripped (don't know, don't play) you can be sure it was to accommodate the mass of whining gamers.

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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2004, 09:44:19 PM »
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I would love to see clouds more often DEFINITELY...  I like some wind too and Night is sorely missed by me, I would love that back.


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