Author Topic: First time marijuana seller gets 55 years (Read 3303 times)

hawker238 · « **Reply #135 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:30:03 PM »

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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Still 55 years for selling pot is stupid, we should end the stupid wastefull war on drugs and use the money to fight the war on terror.

LOL

Suave · « **Reply #136 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:31:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
Suave I do think that 55 years is harsh but you better know the laws before you go doing stupid stuff like bringing a pistol to a deal to sell an Oz.

Carrying a firearm while selling drugs is not exercising your 2nd amendment rights its called a felony and looks like homeskillet learned that one the hard way.

It's still exercising your second amendment right. They've just made it a felony to do so while selling certain types of plant parts.

Suave · « **Reply #137 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:32:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
LOL!

No suave... I don't have to include a pronoun. Maybe you meant proper noun?

And I don't have to play a technicallity game with you on this. Stop being assenine.

Maybe you'd like to answer the questions I posed instead of insisting you didn't use a term? Right now you're looking pretty damn desperate to prove any point other than the obvious one staring you in the face.

Ok Grunherz

RedTop · « **Reply #138 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:35:27 PM »

It also states that the guns were stolen. Yet another point.

Harsh or not , it is the law. He should have taken the 15 years.

That would have negated 5 924 counts and just been basically 3 times selling to an ondercover cop.

I have to ask this.....

Do you honestly believe that with 5 guns , over 18k in cash , 3 duffle bags that had residue , 3 pounds of Dope and selling it 3 times to the same undercover cop , that this guy is somehow getting screwed?

Sounds like to me as I said before , this is his first time getting caught. DEFINATLY not his first rodeo.

Suave · « **Reply #139 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:38:56 PM »

Yes I think getting arrested for selling pot and owning guns is getting screwed.

And it doesn't matter how he acquired the guns as the law applies to firearms regardless of how they are obtained.

Mini D · « **Reply #140 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:45:41 PM »

Wow suave... namecalling now?

I think you're a bit confused as to exactly what you're arguing about suave.

Felons do not have the right to carry firearms. Not during the felony, and not after the conviction for the felony.

RedTop · « **Reply #141 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:46:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Yes I think getting arrested for selling pot and owning guns is getting screwed.

And it doesn't matter how he acquired the guns as the law applies to firearms regardless of how they are obtained.

So there we have it...ya just think he is getting screwed. EVEN tho he obviously broke the laws. So your not going to argue the ponit that the law is wrong just tough. Correct?

Your other statment is correct. Legal ownership wouldn't have matterd. He brings it to a drug deal , then bang , thats a bad thing whether you own it properly or not. Because your are committing a crime while having that firearm.

2nd ammendment doesn't wash here tho. It also doesnt wash in ANY crime even if you owned the gun legally. Im pretty sure anyways.

Suave · « **Reply #142 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:49:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Wow suave... namecalling now?

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Stop being assenine

I know you have need to turn discussions into arguments, but I'm not going to argue. Good day.

Suave · « **Reply #143 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:52:53 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop

Your other statment is correct. Legal ownership wouldn't have matterd. He brings it to a drug deal , then bang

Or in this case if you leave it at home in a safe.

And yes I believe the law is wrong and immoral.

Mini D · « **Reply #144 on:** December 11, 2004, 04:56:30 PM »

How did I know you would say that suave.

You're still being assenine. Look it up the definition of the word before saying I'm calling you a name. But feel free to throw your argument out the window and try arguing "technicalities". It speaks volumes for your entire participation in this thread.

Does grunhurts point this out to you too? Or are you just as misinterpreted when you act this way with him?

Suave · « **Reply #145 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:00:14 PM »

What's the subject of the discussion again ?
This is humorous, please keep going dejavu.

Octavius · « **Reply #146 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:01:00 PM »

asinine.

Mini D · « **Reply #147 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:02:05 PM »

If the man had a firearm at his home, it would not have mattered. Since the man had the firearm at his home where he was storing 3 lbs of marijuana (yet another felony)... it did matter.

RedTop · « **Reply #148 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:02:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Or in this case if you leave it at home in a safe.

And yes I believe the law is wrong and immoral.

Suave ,

Look...Lets just say I agree in the sense that , yes , 1st time being arrested and convicted he got a harsh sentence. 55 years is tough. He didn't get one bit of that 55 years becasue he had some STOLEN guns locked up nice and safe in a safe at home. Not 1 of those years was for that. 5 was for the drug deal. 50 was for having a gun at 2 of the 3 drug deals. Thats the FEDS penalty that the judge has to follow.

The fact that he could have been hammered to over 125 years because he had guns , at home , locked up , doesn't wash the fact that WHERE those guns were locked up , there was also 3 pounds of dope , 18k+ and other stuff. More stuff in that 2nd location.

Its simple if you just think about it.

Guns alone properly and legally owned = No problem

Guns stolen and brought to a Drug Deal whether used , brandished , or even just seen by accident = BAD BAD BAD

Same goes for legally owned guns at a crime. = BAD BAD BAD

Mini D · « **Reply #149 on:** December 11, 2004, 05:04:49 PM »

Wow suave... humorous? Really? Have you looked up the meaning of the word yet?