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Offline Dowding

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« on: December 11, 2004, 08:40:41 AM »
Passed the first stage of my accountancy exams so I finally have my new system ready to build:

MSI Neo2 Platinum Skt 939 Mobo
Athlon64 3500
HIS Excalibur X800 XT PE IceQ II VIVO (with inbuilt VGA silencer)
1 Gb Crucial Ballistix PC3200 RAM
160 GB Maxtor Diamondmax 10 SATA HD
Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS 7.1
Zalman CNPS7700-CU Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler
Antec Sonata Case
Creative Inspire 7.1 T7900 Speakers
Win XP Pro

I wanted the 3500 Winchester core but it was impossible to find. The faster AMD processors are far too expensive at the moment considering the performance increase, so I spent the money on the GPU. Can't see the point of PCI Express at the moment so went with AGP.

Only issue is fitting the Zalman cooler, huge X800 silencer and mobo together...
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2004, 09:18:07 AM »
If you can't get the zalman to fit, try one of the newer aluminum and heatpipe thermalright designs.  They also fit large/quiet fans.  They're taller than the zalman ones but not as wide so if you have horizontal clearance issues with the zalman but have clearance above the cpu, consider the thermalright HSF.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2004, 01:42:15 PM »
very good....just go without the sound card....had 2 of them and couldn't get rid of these anoying little pops and clicks. read that the on-board sound with these boards is better than most sound cards so started going without and I recommend it:aok

dogh....didn't notice the 939 socket...so i don't know about that board....just msi boards in general

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2004, 01:45:29 PM »
Yeah but onboard sound takes up CPU cycles. Is there no other alternative to Sound Blaster for gaming?

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2004, 10:10:43 AM »
Well, the 7700 cooler doesn't fit. The Thermalright HSF looks like it might or the Asus Star Ice (jet engine look-a-like).

As for sound cards, I'd heard of the problems - I'm just hoping it works ok! ;)
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2004, 03:00:02 PM »
Arctic cooling freezer 64.

Std AMD cooler at stock cpu clock for 3500 (2200mhz) running prime = 65 degs C (149 degs F)

Arctic cooling freezer 64 with overclocked cpu to 2400mhz and cpu volts upped to 1.6 running prime = 51 degs C (123 Degs F)

Its a winner for me.

Its quiet cant hear it as PSU fans are louder, smaller and cheaper than the Zalman.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2004, 03:03:26 PM by 214thCavalier »

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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2004, 08:27:38 PM »
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Originally posted by Kaz
Yeah but onboard sound takes up CPU cycles. Is there no other alternative to Sound Blaster for gaming?


The amount of CPU the sound onboard takes isnt worth worrying about.

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2004, 03:53:51 AM »
For the case you buy a winchester cpu make sure the motherboard already has a bios that supports it.
Hard to flash a new bios for a cpu since you cant flash it without the cpu.

Since i take it you already bought the system, how is it working?

Anyone know if the zaalmann fits on any 939 nforce3 board, on which one?

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2004, 09:40:09 AM »
Zalman 7700 fits on the Asus A8V. It's a massive thing at 120mm for the fan alone.

Haven't put the machine together - settled on the Coolermaster Hyper 48 which should be with me tomorrow. It's a heatpipe design that takes up vertical real estate rather than horizontal - silent too at 17dB.

Silence is the aim for this system - the case fan is 120mm and silenced and the PSU is ultra-quiet. The GPU has a factory fitted Arctic Cooling Rev.4 cooler on it that is very quiet and cool.
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2004, 08:20:43 AM »
i'm running amd 3000+ 64bit @stock 2 gig, stock heatsink, and never see my idle temps over 110f, normal is 96. i cut a couple of holes in the top of my case and now have a total of 13 fans, but it's alot quieter than it was with the 90mm cpu fan i was runnig. instead of focusing on the cpu so much, work on getting the hot air out of the case.

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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2004, 02:54:09 PM »
You may want to consider the 3000+ Winchester core (90nm).  It is by far the best Bang for the buck for Athlon 64's.  It comes stock at 1.8GHz HTT but can easilly overclock to 2.4-2.6GHz putting it on par with a 4000+ (Old FX53) and the new FX55's.

   The 3000+ Winchester reaches the same overclocks as the 3500+ Winchester.  Following is a nice review on the new 3000+/3200+/3500+ Winchester core CPU's that shows overclocking potential also.


http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2242
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2004, 04:01:12 PM »
I;ve got my AMD 64 3200+ winchester to 2.4mhz easy,  2.5mhz if I wanna tweak some more.

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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2004, 07:48:21 AM »
Hopefully the 3500 won't bottleneck the X800 XT PE too much. I plan on replacing the CPU when AMD bring out a new socket and the price of socket 939 drops.
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