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Offline hawker238

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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2004, 09:39:20 PM »
Do they ever actually use the slides?

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2004, 10:13:49 PM »
Crap thats a friggin flying city

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2004, 10:56:04 PM »
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Do they ever actually use the slides?


Yes. The FAA requires a full-scale emergency evacuation test using half of the exits within 90 seconds. Fire can burn though an aircraft fuselage within 90-120 seconds. Using half of the exits represents fire burning along one side of the aircraft.

http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/000/500/577/930605.pdf

http://www.wws.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/byteserv.prl/~ota/disk1/1993/9306/930607.PDF

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2004, 11:36:15 PM »
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It's operating costs per passenger are significantly lower. Anyway Boeing was lucky to get the 747 right. It's still produced without any major re-design.



Lucky? Isn't a factor you can apply into aircraft design. Like the 727 before it.  It was well designed,well built and the project was obviously well managed. End of story luck had nothing to with it.

A380 is little more then a 744 with a streched upper deck. And one that they've struggled to get the weight down to the original specs  it was proposed to the airlines as from the begining.



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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2004, 11:44:33 PM »
better injured than dead i always say.


still, thats one big bus!

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2004, 12:06:55 AM »
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The 737 is also still produced but it needed a new wing to be competitive.



Yet it's by far the world's most successful commercial jet airliner ever made.



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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2004, 12:20:07 AM »
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better injured than dead i always say.


Interesting articles (and video) about Aircraft Emergency Slides and Evacuation.

FAA cites United for lapse (emergency escape slides were usable)
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=12745

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Chaos in the Cabin: Iberia Flight 6250
http://wid.ap.org/video/evac.html

Please note the passengers reaching for their carry-on items.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2004, 12:27:17 AM by Ozark »

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2004, 01:56:16 AM »
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Originally posted by Ozark
Interesting articles (and video) about Aircraft Emergency Slides and Evacuation.

FAA cites United for lapse (emergency escape slides were usable)
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=12745

Video
Chaos in the Cabin: Iberia Flight 6250
http://wid.ap.org/video/evac.html

Please note the passengers reaching for their carry-on items.


First video didn't play.

Second video:  Wow, what the ****?  Comes to mind first.

Obviously the people on the second plane should have died because Darwin states that the stupid ones should be left behind.

It is amazing that we make such strides in prevention and safety and even then you have people like this.

Darwin should have pulled out his ruler, measured it closely, and state, "You are not tall enough to ride Life".  Please exit.
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2004, 02:30:43 AM »
Well, floor space isn't cargo space, until they slap bigger engines on.  The first a-380s are gonna be the "cadillacs" of the model.  Then they'll get those bigger engines, and that extra floor space will disappear. I'm sure it's been programmed for just that.

And how many toilets does the thing have? 2?


Oh yeah, anyone seen how fast this thing climbs? I hear it makes the 747-100 look like a Me-163.



That evacuation is exactly how I 'picture them. That's why when boarding an aircraft, and asked to locate the nearest emergency exit, I locate it by counting hte number of seats I'm going to have to crawl over.

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2004, 03:24:32 AM »
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Oh yeah, anyone seen how fast this thing climbs? I hear it makes the 747-100 look like a Me-163.


The plane hasn't made it's first flight yet. The Airbus with not so good climb rate is the A340-200.

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2004, 05:55:15 AM »
was reading about the Trent 900 engine on the Rolls Royce website a few weeks back, really impressive.

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The Trent 900 has been designed for growth and has been certificated to 80,000 lb thrust, although at entry in to service the Trent 900 is only required to provide 70,000 lb thrust


http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil_aerospace/products/airlines/trent900/default_flash.jsp
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2004, 06:20:57 AM »
and yeah, slides are used all the time.
This was two weeks ago:

http://www.atcbox.com/Pictures-forum/btc-4.jpg

okay, not much of a drop there, but imagine if you're on the upperdeck of a 380.

And it's good to see that the A380's safety systems are being held to a lower standard than all the other passenger aircraft out there.  I mean, the evacuation verification process was already a joke, this just makes it worse.

and on the 340/380 relationship in the climb, someone posted this on another board:

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But, I gather, from friends in Toulouse that there is far worse than the 340 to come..... the dreaded 380! It has not been designed to go up, down or sideways, but go very fast on the ground.
For obvious reasons, it has been nick-named the ''Ostrich'' by people in the know, at the factory!!

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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2004, 06:26:18 AM »


Seen better "Slip and Slides"


:rofl

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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2004, 07:57:24 AM »
The plane hasn't even flown yet and the Airbusstalkers are allready on the roll.:rolleyes:

Another aircraft you shouldn't be boarding.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2004, 09:09:24 AM »
I love these boards. you suggest that the Bush administration went the wrong way about dealing with Iraq, even in purely military terms, and you get branded an enemy of freedom.  You suggest that the A380 is gonna be a real pig of a plane, will soon have 800 seats, no leg room, no bathroom, take 3 hours to board, and, when it tries to land at a field, when a software glitch causes on overrun, instead of causing an embarassment and costing a few million dollars, it will serve as a tomb for hundreds, and all of a sudden the euro-weeinies brand you as some sort of jingoistic boeing booster.
I'll grant you that Embraer is even scarier than Airbus, but neither Embraer nor Boeing have anything to do with it.

And by the way, I like the European Union, and I love the way their big, centralized bureaucracy doles out money to various groups (such as those in Toulouse) without particular attention to accountability.  Hell, the EU has paid more than a few of my own bills that way!
But I don't think that anything you or I say is going to change the fact that this pig will climb to alt slower than an employee of the Italian Postal Service, or that average boarding/deplaning times will rival the annual vacation of a German worker, or that the number of bribes, kickbacks and friendly conversations between public and private sectors needed to certify this aircraft approaches those used to finance Chirac's last campaign.
Yeah, the aircraft is a symbol of Big Europe, and it's got its strong points as well as its weaknesses.  It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.