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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2004, 03:30:27 PM »
We needed the P-38F or P-38G for scenarios.

The P-38J is icing on the cake really.
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2004, 03:58:48 PM »
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Mitsu, this is 38 thread....niki thread is 2 doors down on your left.:)


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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2004, 04:17:27 PM »
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who can't be happy with that...?



It's the only thing that is keeping me from cancelling my account.  I just wonder which of the J models we'll be getting.  I hope an early model J as the late model J would be a little redundant since we have the L model.


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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2004, 04:19:19 PM »
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nice,   but with the G being added, would we really need the J since they're pretty close to the L's performance wise?

in any case, glad it's being done.



Early model J wouldn't be, a late model J would be.



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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2004, 04:23:30 PM »
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Are the L's dive flaps effective at all?  I've never really seen any difference.



Yes they are.


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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2004, 04:26:46 PM »
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It's the only thing that is keeping me from cancelling my account.  I just wonder which of the J models we'll be getting.  I hope an early model J as the late model J would be a little redundant since we have the L model.


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Either one of these would be nice ...

"These were followed by Model 422-81-22s in two blocks. The first block consisted of 1400 P-38J-15-LOs with revised electrical systems. The second block consisted of 350 P-38J-20-LOs with modified turbo regulators. "

It appears that once you get to the P-38J-25-LO you are pretty much near the "L" series.
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2004, 04:28:38 PM »
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Either one of these would be nice ...

"These were followed by Model 422-81-22s in two blocks. The first block consisted of 1400 P-38J-15-LOs with revised electrical systems. The second block consisted of 350 P-38J-20-LOs with modified turbo regulators. "

It appears that once you get to the P-38J-25-LO you are pretty much near the "L" series.



The P-38J-25-LO series were the ones that were basically the same as the L model.
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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2004, 04:28:45 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2004, 04:36:32 PM »
come back you dork.



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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2004, 04:45:17 PM »
No one answered my question.  Is there anything better about these planes?  Any advantage taking a 38j over a 38L?
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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2004, 05:14:11 PM »
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No one answered my question.  Is there anything better about these planes?  Any advantage taking a 38j over a 38L?


There doesnt appear to be any advantage to taking an earlier model ... its like taking a Spit V compare to a Spit IX and then again the Spit XIV. The earlier the model the less it had, but each with its own strengths/characteristics.

Only advantage would be that the ENY for these early models will be higher than the "L" model so you get more perkies.

It does appear that the "J" model was quite fast (faster than the "L") but does not roll anywhere near as fast as the "L".
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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2004, 05:26:18 PM »
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No one answered my question.  Is there anything better about these planes?  Any advantage taking a 38j over a 38L?


Not really. They are all obviously earlier models. Anything earlier than a P-38J-25-Lo will have neither the dive flaps nor the hydraulicly boosted ailerons.

They should be at least a little better for perk farming, if you do that sort of thing. For really good P-38 pilots, they'll be good for suckering enemy planes, provided they are marked as earlier model P-38's.

Ideally, since we aren't yet getting anything pre-G model, we should get the P-38G-10-Lo and the P-38J-20-Lo.

I'd REALLY like to see the P-38H-5-Lo, since that is what the 55th FG went into combat with in 10-43. The 20th also flew the P-38H-5-Lo, in addition to SOME P-38G-10-Lo planes (the 20th and the 55th had a very few of those).

They BEGAN switching to the P-38J-5-Lo and P-38J-10-Lo in December. They did not get the P-38J-15-Lo and the P-38J-20-Lo until later. Then the P-38J-25-Lo came along before they got the P-38L, about the same time the transitioned to the P-51, in mid 1944.
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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2004, 05:30:57 PM »
The late P-38 (the J-25-Lo and the L series) only had a roll advantage at relatively high speeds, where the hydraulic boost on the ailerons helped overcome the forces holding them still. At lower speeds, where high effort was not required to move the ailerons, there is no real advantage.
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2004, 05:41:01 PM »
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Remodel N1K2 and plan to release N1K1 please?
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What Mitsu said :)  The Japanese planeset is woefully inadequate imho. We dont even have the Oscar yet :(
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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2004, 05:47:10 PM »
You p38 dweebs be sure to check out the new 38 sounds in wafflesounds 3.2. Even Akak said they are the best 38 sound he's heard in any flight simulation :)


of course, he could be joshing and never even downloaded it  - lol