P-38G and J!!

[Grits]

In addition to reworking the P-38L for 2.02, we also plan on introducing the P-38G and P-38J but we'll have to see how that goes as this whole new skinning process gets hashed out.


Yay!

[soda72]

I second that...  

























now if we can only get one more hvy american bomber... lol  

[TrueKill]

yea they ganna take out the ju88 87 and ar234 and puting the b25 b29 and the b36 just so they can here about dive bombin with nukes

[gear]

Originally posted by TrueKill
yea they ganna take out the ju88 87 and ar234

 
Ya forgot the bf110g2:cool:

[allmetal]

Just what we need .....more allied biased planes.

[Grits]

Well, if you think about it, the F4U-1 is the only late '42 US fighter we have right now, all the others are much later. The early P-38's were a huge hole in the planeset that needed to be filled.

I'd still like to see a few other US planes added, notably the P-39/P-400 and an earlier P-47. Sure we need some more Axis planes, mostly Japanese, but they will come I am confident in the not to far away future.

[allmetal]

I would like to see the Ki43,44,and 45.Or how about the J2m Raiden?

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Grits
Well, if you think about it, the F4U-1 is the only late '42 US fighter we have right now, all the others are much later. The early P-38's were a huge hole in the planeset that needed to be filled.

According to F4UDOA the F4U-1 actually has the performance of a 1943 F4U-1A attached to the graphic for an 1942 F4U-1, so we don't really have a late '42 US aircraft of any kind right now.

I think the P-38G, particularly, and P-38J are excelent choices and will close the holes in the P-38 line.

No more facing 3rd quarter, 1944 P-38Ls in 1943 setups.


Now if we could get the A6M3, Bf109G-14, Fw190A-2, P-47C and Spitfire LF.Mk IX to close the gaping holes in those lines we'd be doing real nicely on a graduated progression for a whole bunch of aircraft.

[Grits]

Yup, early P-38's were very important in the Guadalcanal/Rabaul and N Africa campaigns, and to a lesser degree ETO, which were large gaps before.

I dont know that we need the A6M3, or the 109G-14 but we surely need the 190A-3 and the P-47C.

[Reschke]

The F4U-1 in the game at this time is as written about in Karnak's post. The only small change is how the canopy is done and apparently it was done like that simply because it was the quickest way at the time from what I have gathered.

In my view this game needs aircraft other than US aircraft to fill in gaps in the early planeset. And yes I do love my Corsair!

[Karnak]

The A6M3 is significantly better than the A6M2, while still being slower than the A6M5.

That said, if I had to pick between it and the Bf109G-14, I'd take the Bf109G-14.

The Bf109G-14 would go in the gap of more than a year and a half that we don't have anything for the Bf109s.  The Bf109G-6 is early 1943 and the particular Bf109G-10 we have, really a K-4, is October, 1944.  We need a Bf109G-14 for early 1944.

The Spitfire F.Mk IX we have is from mid-1942, the Spitfire Mk XIV didn't see combat until March, 1944 and wasn't available in any numbers until the 4th quarter, 1944.  A Spitfire LF.Mk IX or Spitfire Mk VIII would fill in that gaping hole.  Comparitively, the P-47D-11 does fine as a place holder for the P-47C or P-47D-5 and the Fw190A-5 is OK as a placeholder for earlier Fw190s.

The two biggest holes in the planesets of types we already have are the Bf109G-14 and Merlin 66 powered Spitfire.

[Grits]

Originally posted by Karnak
The A6M3 is significantly better than the A6M2, while still being slower than the A6M5.

And the A6M5 is totally outclassed by the M3's contemporaries which is why, yeah I'd like to have it, but its by no means a must have.

That said, if I had to pick between it and the Bf109G-14, I'd take the Bf109G-14.

The Bf109G-14 would go in the gap of more than a year and a half that we don't have anything for the Bf109s.  The Bf109G-6 is early 1943 and the particular Bf109G-10 we have, really a K-4, is October, 1944.  We need a Bf109G-14 for early 1944.[/b]

Ah, I didn't realize that Karnak, good information to know.

The Spitfire F.Mk IX we have is from mid-1942, the Spitfire Mk XIV didn't see combat until March, 1944 and wasn't available in any numbers until the 4th quarter, 1944.  A Spitfire LF.Mk IX or Spitfire Mk VIII would fill in that gaping hole.  Comparitively, the P-47D-11 does fine as a place holder for the P-47C or P-47D-5 and the Fw190A-5 is OK as a placeholder for earlier Fw190s.[/b]

Agreed there too.

The two biggest holes in the planesets of types we already have are the Bf109G-14 and Merlin 66 powered Spitfire. [/B]

Agreed, and I would add:

G4M Betty
An Italian bomber (S.79)
A Russian bomber (Pe 2)
several Russian fighters (Mig, Yak variants)
Various Ki's

[VWE]

He-111, Pe-2, Mig-3, G3M(Nell), G4M(Betty), Kawanishi H8K (Emily)... these are but a few of many that should be done before any more allied planes are brought into AH.

[Grits]

Doh!! I forgot the He-111. That was gonna be the first one on my list and I left it off.

The problem with the US inventory is as I said, it lacks early-mid war planes. Its got very early, and late, but nothing in the early-mid portion, like the early P-38's and the P-39/P-400. Many others are needed before more US planes, but more US planes are needed nonetheless.

[Langford]

HE111 here:D