Have a friend that is really into the rc copter thing and he can do alot of that stuff. He still flys the first copter he built, he learned how to fly by using a simulator on his puter that lets him hook his rc controller to his puter through a usb port and fly a virtual rc copter, with all the action of the real thing. Tried it a few times, much harder than rc planes, have to keep track of three things at once.