Author Topic: Crap hits the fan in Moscow (Read 1996 times)

MiloMorai · « **on:** December 16, 2004, 01:01:10 PM »

It seems due to pressure from an American manufacturer that any new a/c using a P&W engine will not be released by 1C/Maddox Games.

Take care with any new a/c you add to AH.

link to the SimHQ thread

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=114;t=002241;p=1

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:13:35 PM »

I have to say that is idiotic.

History does not belong to any private company. It belongs to us all.

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:46:46 PM »

Sounds strange since they already modelled the P&W R2800 in their version of the F6F Hellcat.

MiG

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:51:20 PM »

Watch the next patch that comes out Airboss... somethings may go missing.
-SW

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:51:31 PM »

Hmmm, interesting quote from the developer at the above mentioned link...

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"We will not add anymore any of the planes of Vougt, Republic and Grumman due to very serious reason. Even when some of them already was ready.
Trust me the reason is very serious and out of our control."

MiG

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:53:51 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Watch the next patch that comes out Airboss... somethings may go missing.
-SW

What a great reason not to patch the game or not to purchase future releases. I wonder what really happened.

MiG

MiloMorai · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:55:35 PM »

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Originally posted by CMC Airboss
Sounds strange since they already modelled the P&W R2800 in their version of the F6F Hellcat.

MiG

Yes and the P-47D is already in the game. What it seems is that it effects any NEW a/c releases. To use an old expression, 'the barn gate is now being closed'.

Kweassa · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2004, 01:56:48 PM »

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History does not belong to any private company. It belongs to us all.

Unless someone copyrights a section of history. Welcome to 21st century capitalism a-la-"Dilbert".

Angus · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:32:54 PM »

That's Il-2 right?
If so, who cares,,,,,it's too mushy anyway...

Kweassa · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:53:26 PM »

What makes you think Pratt&Whitney would grant a waiver for HTC, when they did that to 1C:Maddox?

Ofcourse, that's assuming if P&W really was behind all that.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:07:00 PM »

I doubt it was P&W, I actually don't know how they arrived at that conclusion seeing as how the representation of the P&W engines are questionable at best.

More than likely I'd be looking at the aircraft mfgs, and who they currently are. Afterall, it's all American planes - not just P&W powered ones.
-SW

MiloMorai · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2004, 05:17:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
That's Il-2 right?
If so, who cares,,,,,it's too mushy anyway...

Angus, Strike Fighters had to remove the F-104 from their 'game'. Rumor has it that MS canned their FS4 due to legalities about the a/c that were to be in it.

And just to show how far it can go, a model manufacture stopped making Boeing a/c and instead manfuactured their competitors a/c.

Union Pacific chages a licensing fee for model train manufacurers that use ANY of the company logos on the rolling stock/engines.

That is just some examples.

Go read the thread.

Wotan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2004, 06:17:39 PM »

It's pretty serious in terms of what types of games and sims develop in the future.

Personally I could care less about any US plane. Now if they start messing the Messer's and Focke-Wolf's or even Spits and the like I may get worried. Maybe future games will be free of allied farmboi's. We can only hope...

UBI soft probably caved to the pressure. Oleg has in a thread on UBI that says:

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This and several others probably will be done, but only on CD for Russian version and market and only for a merged install.

I'm sorry to tell it isn't for the rest of the world.

If only Publisher will be interested in add-ons that we ordered to complete by third party for only Russian market (new maps, new planes, new ground vehicles, etc), then we may do multilanguage version for the rest of the world.

However part of these things will be also present in Western version for free.

Now you can decifer what Oleg means but it seems to me UBI isn't interested in further add-ons for Il2 (whether that be based on pressure from Ami aircraft manufacturer's or the fact UBI didn't make enough of a profit on the past 2 IL2 add-ons). He may get around it by offering the Ami planes for free. Who knows...

Bodhi · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2004, 06:32:43 PM »

Seems to me that the PR fall out would be worse for an A/C mfg company if they played this game.... who knows.

Wotan · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2004, 06:38:58 PM »

Nope all the noise from the flight sim communtiy directed at them could do the reverse by demonstrating the size of the market. It may be a niche market compared to other game types but its still large enough for them to claim a small royalty on every aircraft they hold the rights to.

HT may want to put them p38s on hold!!!