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Offline DREDIOCK

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« on: December 17, 2004, 07:22:10 AM »
Can Windows XP be installed on more then one machine per household/office?

Or do you have to buy a seperate copy of XP for each machine you own?

I saw a statement on another thread that would lead me to beleive you have to buy another copy per machine you own.

Which at $300 a pop seems absurd
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 07:25:18 AM »
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How is anyone going to know you've installed it twice in your home?

In the office.....well in Britain occasionally those nice men from the Department of Trade and Industry will come round and demand to see licenses for every installation of everything.  But no-one can come into your home and demand the same thing.



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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2004, 08:19:16 AM »
It is my understanding that to get XP to work once installed you have to actually go online and register it to activate it to get it to work.

I have XP on this machine but it was installed when I got it.
Unfortunately The guy I got it from didnt give me the disk, And I like to wipe clean then reinstall the operating system  freash at least once a year.

In this case I have more then one machine and plan on getting yet another for my wife, which will need an OS.
Im figuring while Im at it I might as well upgrade the OS on all the machines but have no desire to spend $900 for 3 copies of XP

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How is anyone going to know you've installed it twice in your home?

In the office.....well in Britain occasionally those nice men from the Department of Trade and Industry will come round and demand to see licenses for every installation of everything.  But no-one can come into your home and demand the same thing.


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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2004, 09:14:15 AM »
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It is my understanding that to get XP to work once installed you have to actually go online and register it to activate it to get it to work.


Dunno who told you that but it's rubbish matey.  Install XP, it'll work just fine.

Someone who knows more about it than me might mention automatic updates and CD keys.......but I've never had a problem with XP at all.  Right now the copy of XP I have has been installed on at least 3 different PCs over the years and every single one of my mates is using a copy of XP downloaded by one of them a while back.  One totally illegal copy of XP is running about 30 PCs.

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2004, 03:59:09 PM »
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Dunno who told you that but it's rubbish matey.  Install XP, it'll work just fine.

Someone who knows more about it than me might mention automatic updates and CD keys.......but I've never had a problem with XP at all.  Right now the copy of XP I have has been installed on at least 3 different PCs over the years and every single one of my mates is using a copy of XP downloaded by one of them a while back.  One totally illegal copy of XP is running about 30 PCs.




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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2004, 04:31:12 PM »
The corporate version does not require authorization.  

Home and Pro do. (to the best of my knowledge, that is)

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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2004, 07:14:10 PM »
if and when you do register the copy it will analyze your system configuration.  If you made major Hardware changes it will block you from registering.  For the most part I've heard that if you call them they will help you out and give you a new CD Key.

If your CD key is bogus you cannot get security updates and service packs.

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2004, 07:41:33 PM »
They dont actually give you a new CD key.  Instead they give you a number that is 2.5 times as long as a CD key, you still have to have your original CD key as well.

Win XP Professional or Home will install once only with the CD key you get.  I will quote you from the XP bible...........

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"When you install Windows XP, you must activate it using Microsoft's anti-piracy technology: Product Activation.  If you reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows, you must activate it again.  If you reinstall on a drive you have not formatted (a second hard drive), you need to reactivate only if you have changed numerous other hardware components of your system.

Windows examines 10 different hardware components, ranging from the CPU to hard drives to network and video cards, and creates a unique identifier for your machine upon activation.  The term "significantly" means a change of 6 of the 10 hardware items, although even this isn't strictly adhered to.  Furthermore, you can change any single component as often as you want, and it still counts as only one change.

On reinstallation, if you require reactivation, try to do so over the Internet.  If your request is confused, the Product Activation wizard provides a telephone number along with a lengthy numeric code.  Call the number, and punch in the code when so instructed by the automated attendant.  In the vast majority of cases, the activation will proceed without incident.  If not, and if you do, in fact, have a pirated version of Windows XP, you will probably have to buy a legal copy."


There is a workaround for reinstalling on the same PC, to keep from having to go through this, but unless your second PC is exactly the same build you will most likely get caught.  I'm also not going to post it on the BBS as it could be considered a hack, especially if someone tries it to get around this on a second install.  My suggestion to you is, either use an older copy of Windows for your other machine, or buy another license.

Which is all you have to do, you dont have to buy a second installation. A ll you have to do is buy another license.  Totally different thing.  The license is simply gives you another CD key that has never been issued, and costs nowhere near as much as another copy of the install.  Thats how most businesses do it, they buy a minimum number of CDs and buy several licenses per CD.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2004, 08:36:04 PM »
Im looking at installing it new on two machines and re-installing it on a  3rd that already has it but as I mentioned I dont have the disk for
Any idea on how much another licence costs?

If its only a nominal fee thats one thing. But if its say. in the hundreds.

It aint worth it

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They dont actually give you a new CD key.  Instead they give you a number that is 2.5 times as long as a CD key, you still have to have your original CD key as well.

Win XP Professional or Home will install once only with the CD key you get.  I will quote you from the XP bible...........



There is a workaround for reinstalling on the same PC, to keep from having to go through this, but unless your second PC is exactly the same build you will most likely get caught.  I'm also not going to post it on the BBS as it could be considered a hack, especially if someone tries it to get around this on a second install.  My suggestion to you is, either use an older copy of Windows for your other machine, or buy another license.

Which is all you have to do, you dont have to buy a second installation. A ll you have to do is buy anot
her license.  Totally different thing.  The license is simply gives you another CD key that has never been issued, and costs nowhere near as much as another copy of the install.  Thats how most businesses do it, they buy a minimum number of CDs and buy several licenses per CD.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2004, 10:52:20 PM »
I *believe* XP home is like 80 bucks for a license fee, and 120 for XP Pro.  Dont quote me on that though.  If you want to email me I'll send you the workaround to get your 3rd one back up without having to go through the reactivation bull.  My email is


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Its relatively simple, but as I said, it could be viewed as a hack, and someone might try it to get around paying for it.  So I'd rather not risk breaking the rules by posting it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2004, 11:08:12 PM »
After millions of reformats in the past few years, I've exceeded the "max number of installs" for online activation.  

I just call'em up, sometime's it's automated, or indian, either one... you read off some #s, they'll read off some more #s, punch'em in, and you're set.

Hasn't made a beef with any installation after that.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2004, 03:21:26 AM »
i have a sorta wierd question ...

What i have is a early verson of xp that I Received From Mrs Roo 's Mums collection after she Passed away last year ..

Is there a way i can trade it in on a new verson w/ sp2 on it already ??

(i have the original package/cd/key ) I'm not even shure if it was ever regestered .
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2004, 09:35:03 AM »
Another question,

whats the difference between the "OEM" version of Windows XP
I see advertised at places like Tiger Direct for $99 and the version I see in stores for $300?
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2004, 10:09:09 AM »
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Another question,

whats the difference between the "OEM" version of Windows XP
I see advertised at places like Tiger Direct for $99 and the version I see in stores for $300?


Absolutely nothing.

Oh, except the pretty box.  If you want the box, pay the 300 bucks.

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2004, 02:10:18 PM »
No difference at all, OEM is only supposed to be purchased with a computer attached.
But a lot of places will sell it to you no questions asked although some insist you purchase a hard drive with it.