Author Topic: ACLU: Did you know.... (Read 1783 times)

Suave · « **Reply #60 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:42:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
but why would that matter. The US govt. today endorses or respects the establishment of many organizations that are in fact discriminatory in nature and in some sense religious.

That doesn't make it right.

Suave · « **Reply #61 on:** December 20, 2004, 10:47:42 AM »

As far as gay scouts, I seem to remember an eagle scout getting his stuff taken away from him because he was gay, am I wrong?

If I'm right that's fluffied up.

And mighty you're confusing pedophilia with homosexuality.

-MZ- · « **Reply #62 on:** December 20, 2004, 01:05:20 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Err OK...I forget why it's OK to discount a NY Times story...Too Liberal? Too Conservative? Too something else? What?

Too many big words.

-MZ- · « **Reply #63 on:** December 20, 2004, 01:13:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
LA county chose not to fight the ACLU and give in to its demands. The council was quoted as saying that the cost would outweigh the rewards. BUT after the coucil ruled on the seal it was estimated that it would cost $1 MILLION in taxpayer money to replace it on all city property.

Los Angeles County is a county, not a city, and has a Board of Supervisors, not a 'council'. And they will not be 'replacing' the old county seals, only the new ones ordered will be different.

Do you make a conscious effort to be ill-informed?

Mighty1 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 20, 2004, 01:16:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
And mighty you're confusing pedophilia with homosexuality.

No I'm not. Both are mental illness that should not be allowed around kids.

Besides I read some where (I'll have to find the article again) that over 80% of child molesters (non- family members) were gay.

Suave · « **Reply #65 on:** December 20, 2004, 01:39:53 PM »

See my previous post about flake's who have a beef with the ACLU.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #66 on:** December 20, 2004, 02:06:09 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Err OK...I forget why it's OK to discount a NY Times story...Too Liberal? Too Conservative? Too something else? What?

Stories that are made up? Or do you selectively forget things like that?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #67 on:** December 20, 2004, 02:07:25 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
I think Riptroll is still mad about Miranda v. Arizona. Before that cops had it sweet and easy. It did'nt matter if you actually did the crime or not. It did'nt matter if you wanted an attorney or could afford one. It did'nt matter if they beat you with rubber hoses to get a confession. It did'nt matter if police violated The Constitution of The United States. Stupid ACLU.

The ACLU is similiar to the unions...they've not only outlived their usefulness, but carry a political agenda that propogates income for their organizations.

SOB · « **Reply #68 on:** December 20, 2004, 03:40:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Stories that are made up? Or do you selectively forget things like that?

Well, I do remember that they had a reporter that was making up stories, that they canned. That doesn't make me assume that every story they publish is a lie. If you do, why did you use their story for your post?

weaselsan · « **Reply #69 on:** December 20, 2004, 04:53:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
What do you think the secret agenda is ?

You need to go back and carefully read my post. It is no secret , the purpose of the ACLU is to destroy Christianity. They want every ones rights to be granted by Government. Our system of Government was based on the premise of "God given rights". The Declaration of Independence spells this out. "Endowed by their Creator (God) with certain "inalieable rights" (Unchangeable not up to debate}. It was the Declaration of Independence that made the Constitution possible.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #70 on:** December 20, 2004, 05:01:56 PM »

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Originally posted by -MZ-
Los Angeles County is a county, not a city, and has a Board of Supervisors, not a 'council'. And they will not be 'replacing' the old county seals, only the new ones ordered will be different.

Do you make a conscious effort to be ill-informed?

Does anyone even like you? Quit being an arse, 1. The story I read was that under agreement the "board" would have to replace all the old seals, 2. The majority of their constituents did not want this. and 3. They just rolled over and bowed down to the demands of the ACLU.

Now you tell me. WHat does your post have to do AT ALL with the topic? You can chew up my post all you want but the mesage is still there.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #71 on:** December 20, 2004, 05:03:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
That doesn't make it right.

Nore does it make it right for the ACLU to SPECIFICALLY target certain orgainizations and not others....it shows they have a political agenda.

-MZ- · « **Reply #72 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:49:52 PM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
You need to go back and carefully read my post. It is no secret , the purpose of the ACLU is to destroy Christianity.

Wrong.

The ACLU stops public officials from using their government powers to promote a religion.

Got it?

-MZ- · « **Reply #73 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:57:08 PM »

Originally posted by Gunslinger

>>Does anyone even like you?

Not really.

>> Quit being an arse,

That's asking quite alot.

>>1. The story I read was that under agreement the "board" would have to replace all the old seals,

The story you read was wrong. They just aren't ordering any more of the old symbols for business cards, vehicle stickers, etc.

>>2. The majority of their constituents did not want this.

Probably, there wasn't a vote on it. I am a member of the ACLU and I think this case was a waste of time myself.

>>3. They just rolled over and bowed down to the demands of the ACLU.

3 of the 5 decided not to spend more money fighting a case they were advised by County Counsel they would lose. If the people don't like it they can vote them out, but that hasn't happend to a LA County Supervisor in over 20 years.

>>Now you tell me. WHat does your post have to do AT ALL with the topic? You can chew up my post all you want but the mesage is still there.

This is a topic about the ACLU.

You post, I correct.

rpm · « **Reply #74 on:** December 20, 2004, 07:58:16 PM »

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Originally posted by weaselsan
You need to go back and carefully read my post. It is no secret , the purpose of the ACLU is to destroy Christianity. They want every ones rights to be granted by Government. Our system of Government was based on the premise of "God given rights". The Declaration of Independence spells this out. "Endowed by their Creator (God) with certain "inalieable rights" (Unchangeable not up to debate}. It was the Declaration of Independence that made the Constitution possible.

Well let's line up those heathen Jews, Buddists,and Muslims and wipe them out. How dare they have the right to a religion other than yours! NOBODY EXPECTS THE AMERICAN INQUISITION!