Gadhafi ends nuke program because of Bush.

[NUKE]

LOL

He was trying so hard to make peace, that he continued to develope nuclear capability until it was no longer wise to do so.

You don't care what Gadhafi says as the reason? What other source would you consider more accurate?

Why do you think Lybia's nuke materials now are in the hands of US and not anywhere else?

[lada]

Originally posted by NUKE

Why do you think Lybia's nuke materials now are in the hands of US and not anywhere else?

because other do not need to steal nuclear materials ?
correct ?

Im wondering, why US took Iraqi hitech devices and moved them to US instead of destroy them or leave them for new Iraq, whitch could use them for civil purpose

[NUKE]

Originally posted by lada
because other do not need to steal nuclear materials ?
correct ?

Why would the US need to steal nuclear materials? We can produce all we need. Are you just ignorant?

Lybia gave the materials to us.

Next.

[Gixer]

"In other words....he's afraid that Bush might actually act against him"

I think everyone is affraid that he will make up some stories and act against them. Let alone a few middle east countries.

Hence Iran's logic and their accelerated rush to get Nukes if they haven't already got them. Funniest thing about Iran there you have a country thats actively building nukes yet Bush can't get the support he needs as that little boy has already cried wolf.

I doubt even the poodle would join in on that adventure.



...-Gixer

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Gixer
"In other words....he's afraid that Bush might actually act against him"

I think everyone is affraid that he will make up some stories and act against them. Let alone a few middle east countries.

Hence Iran's logic and their accelerated rush to get Nukes if they haven't already got them. Funniest thing about Iran there you have a country thats actively building nukes yet Bush can't get the support he needs as that little boy has already cried wolf.

I doubt even the poodle would join in on that adventure.



...-Gixer

You think Iran is Bush's responsibility? The funny thing to me is that you and probably the rest of the sane people of the world recognise that Iran is a threat ( he, kind of like Iraq was considered to be) yet no one does anything about it.

Iran will probably be laid on our shoulders because no one else is going to do anything.

[Toad]

Originally posted by Gixer
[B Bush can't get the support he needs as that little boy has already cried wolf.
...-Gixer [/B]

Except of course that France, Germany and Britain are all themselves crying "wolf" right along with Bush. Sort of blows your analogy, doesn't it?


Iran Allegedly Builds Secret Facility for Nuke Program

The Iran-EU talks broke off Saturday, opening the door to moves towards UN sanctions. A diplomat close to the talks said Britain, France and Germany had given Iran until late Sunday to agree to a full freeze, including 20 disputed centrifuges, or they would table a tough resolution at the IAEA meeting.

Iran Allegedly Builds Secret Facility for Nuke Program

[lada]

sure iran hide plenty of Nuke facility .... .. but they will never ever beat Saddams mobile laboratory.....

The only one problem is this
(form the link)

"with the 20 centrifuges, the machines used to enrich uranium to make nuclear fuel  but also what can be the raw material for atomic weapons."

but also, but also..... ummm
its another news reported by some sort of secret services, so its another BS IMO.

Im wondering that nobody offered them some ultra cheap power or something what could remove their need of Nuke powerplant.
It seems very easy to me. If they need power and the only one way how to get enough power is nuke power plant, lets provide them power for reasonable price and problem is over. Pitty that EU "offers", if there are any, arent public.

edit : umm hold on. date of that story is 28.11 ... its a bit old isnt it ? i think there has been some progress already


edit: lol its old story... there are few more

but this rock
" That though is not enough to convince the White House of any change in policy towards Iran. At the weekend, the Washington Post reported that the US secret service had bugged ElBaradei because the White House doesn't trust him. "
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1427820,00.html
interesting article as well
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1425660,00.html

[Thrawn]

Al Gore invented the internet.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Toad
Except of course that France, Germany and Britain are all themselves crying "wolf" right along with Bush. Sort of blows your analogy, doesn't it?[/URL]

No not at all, Bush is the only one along with Israel that would be keen for a few airstrikes or even better invade. Then again that isn't working out so well in Iraq so I doubt he would try more then air strikes and a few cruise missiles in furture.


...-Gixer

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Gixer
No not at all, Bush is the only one along with Israel that would be keen for a few airstrikes or even better invade. Then again that isn't working out so well in Iraq so I doubt he would try more then air strikes and a few cruise missiles in furture.


...-Gixer

Gixer, you believe Iran is a threat correct?

[Toad]

Funniest thing about Iran there you have a country thats actively building nukes yet Bush can't get the support he needs as that little boy has already cried wolf.

Funniest thing is that France, Germany and Britain all see the same problem with Iran that Bush sees.

As I said, if they all see the same problem as Bush, then they're all crying "wolf".

At this point, the four entities may differ on possible solutions/actions but it sure looks like they agree on the problem.

So, again, your analogy doesn't fit.

[lada]

Originally posted by Toad
Funniest thing is that France, Germany and Britain all see the same problem with Iran that Bush sees.

not true.... EU mind, that if they will enrich uranium at low lvl, they could master it in short time to enrich it to weapon grade.

So europe mind, that they could have sutch know how.


US is just *****ing about some Secret nuclear weapon program.


So there is diference between Eu and Us.

Us is hunting ghost and moblie laboratories as usualy, but europe trying to solve >possible< problem with enritchment.


So i dont think that Eu and Bush have same problem with Iran, do you think so ?

[lada]

Originally posted by NUKE
You think Iran is Bush's responsibility? The funny thing to me is that you and probably the rest of the sane people of the world recognise that Iran is a threat ( he, kind of like Iraq was considered to be) yet no one does anything about it.

muhehehe Iran is sooo dangerous... man i have to ask some of my iranian friends .. they must feel very important now.... coz average american probably fear them. muhehe


But yes... i can imagine, that some sort of brainwashed sheep could run to Iran and get lost in desert or mountains.....  and then hungry iranians could be realy dangerous.

Originally posted by NUKE

Iran will probably be laid on our shoulders because no one else is going to do anything.

belive me.. iranian dont give a watermelon about your sexual problems.....
They will be happy to continue with their reforms and improvments. and they need them badly, everyone over there know it..


But if you will meet iranian on the street, better run away, he could nuke you... specialy after lunch or dinner

[Red Tail 444]

All of this begs the question...

How much to pay off NK, a FAR more dangerous state, than Iran will ever be?

I don't hear so much tough talk about going after a country that's pretty much said, straight up.

"we have em, here's the proof, now do something about it."

better yet, when do we invade?