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Offline airbumba

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« on: December 19, 2004, 10:16:01 PM »
I visited my buddy this weekend, and they used his land in filming the Movie, 'The Whole Nine Yards'. So we were a talking about stuff, and when asked if I was still flyin, I told him I wasn't current, but that I do get my sudo-flyin fix in AH.

So after replying to his question how a 'virtual' game could satisfy my flying needs, which I assured him it couldn't, but comes damn close. I told him that up to 500 flyers from around the world battle in WW2 aircraft online at the same time, he freaked.

Then he says ,"That reminds me , remember the movie they filmed here"?. (The whole nine yards). I says"yah, so" He says, "when they were filming it, the saying, had something to do with WW2 aviation". I didn't know that.

So I looked into it, here's what I found. If someone has something better, please let me know, I'm about to lose a bet.



What Bruce said:
Whole nine yards
Comes from World War II fighter pilots, whose planes typically were
outfitted with enough machine-gun ammunition to extend 27 feet. If a pilot
expended all his ammunition on a mission, he would say, "I gave them the
whole nine yards".

World wide words:
Yet another explanation is that it was invented by fighter pilots in the Pacific during World War Two. It is said the .50 calibre machine gun ammunition belts in Supermarine Spitfires measured exactly 27 feet. If the pilots fired all their ammo at a target, they would say that it got “the whole nine yards”. A merit of this claim is that it would explain why the phrase only began to be recorded after the War.

Usenet archives:
A more recent assertion is that twenty-seven feet was the standard length of a machine-gun belt, and that firing off the entire round was shooting "the whole nine yards." This is sensible in a number of ways- -the military is often a source for expressions of this type; it makes perfect semantic sense; the phrasing is reasonable. Most machine-gun belts were less than twenty-seven feet, unfortunately, and of course this phrase is not found specifically associated with this theory until very recently.

Wikepedia:
The expression "The Whole Nine Yards" comes from World War II. The machine guns used to be fed their rounds in ribbons of 9 yard lengths. The go "the whole nine yards" meant that you went through the entire length of the ribbon. The expression has stuck since then, and refers to going the distance in a sequence of actions or events... in essence, to have gone through to a state of thorough completion.
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Offline Arty

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2004, 02:23:17 AM »
Actually as I understand it the phrase is much older and nautical in origination.

the whole nine yards
If you look at a "typical square-rigger" (see the picture in the front pages of any of the O'Brian books you will see that there are three masts with three yards on each mast. So if you had all of the square sails a flying on board you would have the whole nine yards in operation. ie. everything.
[Bill Strauss (wstrauss@frbchi.org)]

Offline Mugzeee

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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2004, 03:21:17 AM »
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Originally posted by Arty
Actually as I understand it the phrase is much older and nautical in origination.

the whole nine yards
If you look at a "typical square-rigger" (see the picture in the front pages of any of the O'Brian books you will see that there are three masts with three yards on each mast. So if you had all of the square sails a flying on board you would have the whole nine yards in operation. ie. everything.
[Bill Strauss (wstrauss@frbchi.org)]

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Offline Samiam

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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2004, 09:13:04 AM »
The whole nine yards

(I personally go with the ready-mix concrete mixer theory.)

Offline gofaster

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2004, 05:12:18 PM »
I could give my explanation for the phrase, but only myself and my wife could truly verify it. :p

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2004, 07:51:17 PM »
My understanding (right or wrong) is that as stated in your post, nine yards was the length of the .50 Cal ammo ribbon and that a pilot returning empty would tell his loaders "I gave 'em the whole nine yards."

Offline XrightyX

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2004, 08:48:26 PM »
I thought the phrase had sexual connotations.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2004, 09:21:54 PM »
gofaster


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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2004, 10:48:44 PM »
bumba bumba bumab
get a job
too much time on hands'
what illegal alien smuggling of americans to Canada
is not keeping ya busy.
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Offline airbumba

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2004, 11:31:20 PM »
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Originally posted by doobs
bumba bumba bumab
get a job
too much time on hands'
what illegal alien smuggling of americans to Canada
is not keeping ya busy.


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