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Offline Ductape

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« on: December 20, 2004, 08:19:51 PM »
Ever since the last update my video has become so jumpy that it has made the game unplayable. Everything was running great until the update came through, then it went in the toilet.
My frame rates have never been that great, but this doesnt appear to be the problem.
Frame rates are only up to 60. I have them limited to 45. When things are jumpy frame rate does drop, but is still in the 20s which has never been a problem before. Usually I get jumpy when things slow down below 10 or 11.
Even when frame rates are in the 40-50 range bomber clones are jumpy, but the rest is fine until it drops into the 20s.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2004, 05:52:11 PM »
almost 24 hrs and no help
figures
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2004, 06:20:19 PM »
Well this is only the message boards. If you want a quicker response you might want to email HTC direct at  support@hitechcreations.com The bards are mostly the community, and some times people just don't have an answer.

Of course when asking for help on the boards its always a good thing to list as much info as possible, problem type, computer system, operating system, and so on. Some thing might ring a bell to some one else that could help.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2004, 09:11:41 PM »
duclty! sorry to hear your problems; if you post your system spec's and/or dx diag output that'd help.

later!

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2004, 12:37:34 AM »
Here is my system info:

HP Pavilion
AMD Athlon XP 2200+
1.80 GHz, 480 MB RAM
Windows XP Home Version 2002 SP2
Radeon 9200, 128 MB RAM

Think that covers it.

Good to hear from you Bockly.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2004, 01:01:39 AM »
gonna have to see the 1st half of your dxdiag ,(For driver comparison)  also double check your pc for bugs ... give a quick look in msconfig/ctrl,alt,del  and see whats running also .
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2004, 01:23:24 AM »
Do you have your Vsync turned off?  Kinda sounds like even though you are getting decent frame rates, its showing signs of strain.  That can happen if you turn off the Vsync and you arent getting a true indication of your frame rates.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2004, 11:15:07 AM »
Vsync
well, now I am the stooopit one. I do not know what it is or where to look to see if it IS on.
ANY direction/instruction would be most helpfull.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.:aok
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2004, 12:20:25 PM »
Havent used an ATI card in awhile, but it cant be that different.  Right click on the desktop and select "properties".  Then go to your "settings" tab and click on the "advanced" button.  Find the tab for your 3D settings, it probably has the ATI logo on it.  In my Nvidia controls the menu tree pops out to the right displaying my choices for various screens for settings on my video card.  There should be one that says something like "3d settings".  Or alternately you can just go through all your choices one by one until you find something that has choices like "Antialiasing" and Anisotropic Filtering" and either Vsync or Vertical Synchronisation or something along those lines.  Alot of people will reccomend you have this turned off for performance, and its true that most times your frame rates will go up.  But its not truly giving you more performance.  Vsync basically "caps" your frame rates at whatever your monitor refresh rate is.  That is as fast as you are going to see things refreshed on the screen anyway, no matter how fast your video card can pump out those pixels.

Once you make sure Vsync is turned on, check the refresh rate of your monitor and make sure it is set to the highest number your monitor supports at whatever your desktop resolution is.  If you look again at the graphics properties menu, there is a tab that says Monitor.  Select that tab and at the top it will tell you what kind of monitor you have, and at about the middle of the screen is a drop down menu that lets you choose the refresh rate.  Below that is a check box that says "Hide modes that this monitor cannot display".  You want to leave that checked for safety.

Last thing you can check ingame sounds a little silly but.........

I dont often use GVs.  One night recently I was playing with PT boats though, and I turned on the Ground View Mode.  I never thought anymore about it.  The last couple of weeks I have noticed my frame rates in the toilet (for me, I was in the high 20s and low 30s), and the horizon edges were sharp and jagged instead of smooth.  I tried every video setting both ingame and out I could think of, and only made things worse.  Then I tried putting it in Full View Mode and viola!  My frame rates jumped back up, my horizon went back to normal, my terrain was rendering properly again............  Apparently when you change view modes, it STAYS in the last mode you chose, even if you exit the game and return.  Or at least it did for me.  Flying while in Ground Vis Mode gave me some symptoms like what you described, especially the jerkiness when closing in on other planes.  If you have used this recently, might check it.  Just hit Shift + F1 and see if it helps.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2004, 06:51:45 PM »
made changes you suggest, going in to see if it fixes it or not. I appreciate you taking the time to do such a detailed technical post.
I have noticed the frame rate in the toilet while using Ground Vis. I hope the problem goes away since I do A lOT of attack sorties and use Ground Vis a lot when I get close to the ground. I also use it when flyin below treeline to see the treetops before I fly through them.
Thanks Again:cool:
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2004, 09:54:59 AM »
Didn't want to forget to come back and say thank you. (almost did):)
I followed your directions and so far things are MUCH better.
The jury may still be out on Ground Vis Range. Bomber groups didn't jump around hardly at all. I need to get close to the ground now and buzz around. :cool:  
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2004, 11:18:17 AM »
Glad it worked.  Sometimes we get all wrapped up with computers trying to figure out complicated problems, figuring they must have complicated solutions.  I'm as guilty as anyone else.  The old adage still applies though, "Find the simplest solution that addresses all your problems, and 9 times out of 10 it will be your answer, no matter how silly it seems".