US soldiers' deaths tops 5000?

[Red Tail 444]

As quoted from a friend who works in the UN building:

just got back from a meeting with the Iraq working group.  They reminded me that there are many things we don’t hear on TV about the conflict.  For example, I didn’t know that the Stars and Stripes magazine puts the official US soldiers’ deaths related to the conflict is over 5000.  

If a soldier died outside of Iraq (i.e. Military hospitals overseas or in DC, then he or she is not counted in the official Pentagon’s count of war deaths).  Sorry to be a such a downer, I’ll stop right here.  

I hope we can reflect on our good fortune and those less fortunate wherever we are-Japan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Hawaii, and California.  Cheers.

[rpm]

Stars and Stripes? You can't belive that lefty anti-american rag.

[Thrawn]

Source please.

[Holden McGroin]

Googled and couldn't find corroboration.  

Nothing on the stars and stripes website I could find.

according to global security 1309 isthe current number.

[Mini D]

Are you sure you're not confusing cassualties with deaths?

[MrBill]

So how long have we been there?

Pretty good I'd say ... being as even if true, it is still 24,000 short of the number of American dead on D-Day.

 < S > to All the Troops in Iraq, Get the job done and come back safe.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by GScholz
That's downright deceiving the public.

Yes, Red Tail should be ashamed.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Mini D
Are you sure you're not confusing cassualties with deaths?

I'm pretty sure he is.  The official toll was like 1,000 a month or two ago.  No way 4,000 died since, even outside Iraq.  

I know there was the Falhuja offensive and all...but still...nah.

[Gunslinger]

You gotta keep in mind in that 1300 deaths by accident or suicide and such are not counted.  Even with that I don't think the figure is anywere near 5000.

I think he's confusing the word casualites with KIA.

and technically I don't think if you die as a result of wounds sustained in combat that you are considered a KIA

[SLO]

so whats the truth here?

[Yeager]

Hard to say.

[2bighorn]

1325 dead as of today (19 died today in Mosul)
1 is missing
4615 wounded (as of dec 14)

That gives 5940

[Thrawn]

From what I have seen the 1300 number is US military deaths in Iraq.  1000 deaths in combat has been recenty surpassed.

Apparently 20,000 US military personal have been wounded in Iraq.  And 10,000 have been wounded and not fit to return to thier units.

I haven't seen SFA to coraborat the number of 5,000 US military deaths in regards to Iraq.


You can find here, an apparent list of every US military person that died and were a member of "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

 http://web1.whs.osd.mil/mmid/casualty/oif_date_of_death_list.pdf

I ask Red Tail for you to name, and provide source information for, one member of US military that was in Iraqi Freedom and was a casualty and is not mentioned in that list, as of Dec 18, 2004.

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by 2bighorn
1325 dead as of today (19 died today in Mosul)
1 is missing
4615 wounded (as of dec 14)

That gives 5940

Well we solved one thing...

He rounded the wrong way....

[rpm]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
You gotta keep in mind in that 1300 deaths by accident or suicide and such are not counted.  Even with that I don't think the figure is anywere near 5000.

I think he's confusing the word casualites with KIA.

and technically I don't think if you die as a result of wounds sustained in combat that you are considered a KIA

If an american soldier gets shot by a terrorist, develops complications from the wound and dies, he wasn't killed by a terrorist in a war.
He died of natural causes.