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Offline eagl

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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2004, 02:28:37 PM »
There is a difference in the licensing with the OEM versions.  If you buy the retail full or upgrade versions of winxp and make enough hardware changes to trigger the activation nonsense where you have to call microsoft, they'll happily reactivate your installation.

If you have the OEM version and change enough hardware, microsoft will probably tell you too bad, because the OEM version is only licensed for use on the original hardware it was installed on so if you upgrade it too much, it's not the original system so the OEM winxp license isn't good anymore.

I think it's BS but that's how it is.  I know someone who had that happen and he was pissed.  He bought a complete system (parts he put together) and installed windows, activated it, and got all the updates.  A week later, the PSU smoked taking out almost every component in the computer.  He sent it all back but instead of getting the exact same parts back, he made some changes.  When he tried to reinstall windows, it wouldn't activate and microsoft told him "sorry, can't help you, this is between you and your system manufacturer."
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2004, 02:52:55 PM »
eagl is technically correct.  However, I have re-activated my OEM XP pro twice online and once by phone.  I re-activated my OEM XP Home once online. YMMV.  Microsoft also provides no tech support (don't know why anyone would need it) for OEM versions.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2004, 05:27:46 PM »
OEM is technically sold as part of a "new" machine. You can buy the components or accuire it with a store bought machine Dell/Gateway/HP etc...either way it is a fully valid license. I've never had a problem reactivating any OEM version I have. As a side note with all the legal beating microsoft has taken the last thing they want is a class action lawsuit on XP licensing. The laws surrounding software "licensing" all originate with copywright laws for books/music/movies. Your right to view/use a legitimately purchased "copy" of any of the above is written in legal stone. BTW you can get OEM XP home for ~$48 online a bunch of places...

http://www.hitechoutlets.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=2170

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2004, 12:14:00 AM »
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OEM is technically sold as part of a "new" machine. You can buy the components or accuire it with a store bought machine Dell/Gateway/HP etc...either way it is a fully valid license. I've never had a problem reactivating any OEM version I have. As a side note with all the legal beating microsoft has taken the last thing they want is a class action lawsuit on XP licensing. The laws surrounding software "licensing" all originate with copywright laws for books/music/movies. Your right to view/use a legitimately purchased "copy" of any of the above is written in legal stone. BTW you can get OEM XP home for ~$48 online a bunch of places...

http://www.hitechoutlets.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=2170


TY this may be the way I end up going.

Just checked out the Microsoft site on this issue.

They NEED some sort of suit against em.
Extortion seems more like the one that fits best

Check this out. And they wonder why people pirate their software!

Windows XP additional license pricing
Version Additional License Price
Windows XP Professional—full version $269.00
Windows XP Professional—version upgrade $184.00
Windows XP Home Edition—full version $184.00
Windows XP Home Edition—version upgrade $84.00

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2004, 12:38:05 AM »
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http://www.hitechoutlets.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=2170


How reputable is this site?
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2004, 06:54:35 AM »
Look, as people have already said if you're using the same CD key thats already been used then you wont be able to get security updates or service packs.  Well considering every gamer in the world regretted installing service pack 2 I personally dont think that's a huge problem.

Especially if you're smart and download the corporate CD key list from somewhere and use those.


Trust me, you dont need to buy another copy of windows, you dont need to register online to get it to work either, you just wont be able to install service packs.


Oh dear, what a shame.


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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2004, 12:49:40 PM »
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How reputable is this site?


Seems to be fine....found them on http://www.majorgeeks.com they rarely have bad sites linked to them.....

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2004, 12:53:09 PM »
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Look, as people have already said if you're using the same CD key thats already been used then you wont be able to get security updates or service packs.  Well considering every gamer in the world regretted installing service pack 2 I personally dont think that's a huge problem.

Especially if you're smart and download the corporate CD key list from somewhere and use those.


Trust me, you dont need to buy another copy of windows, you dont need to register online to get it to work either, you just wont be able to install service packs.


Oh dear, what a shame.



I'm always amazed at people who seem to begrudge the other guy making a living. Why SHOULDN"T you have to pay for a product someone else designed and marketed? Now that being said you shouldnt have to pay more than once for the same product....but why not buy the damm thing for fifty bucks....

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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2004, 04:33:41 PM »
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I'm always amazed at people who seem to begrudge the other guy making a living.


See now I'd agree with you if we weren't talking about Bill Gates here.

And we are talking about paying more than once for the same product.


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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2004, 04:40:16 PM »
Bah, I use XP Corp edition. Bought it.

No need for that stupid activation garbage.

I can probably burn some people a copy. It has SP 1 on it as well.

I won't get around to it until after Xmas though.

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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2004, 08:36:15 PM »
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See now I'd agree with you if we weren't talking about Bill Gates here.

And we are talking about paying more than once for the same product.



I dont care bout bill....but I go agree on the paying more than once. I bought my XP (all of em) and the 1st time I cant use it like I want I'll sue Bill in a sec....cant have deeper pockets can you:)...

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