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Offline Klum25th

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« on: December 26, 2004, 08:29:44 PM »
Since the Ju52 would be nice but most complain about its slow speed then y not have an Italy transport plane which was on the  axis side be an axis Transport plane.

Name:Sovoia-Marchetti SM.75 Marsupiale

Max Speed: 225 mph
Range: 1070 miles
Service Ceiling: 20,500ft

It could carry one 7.7mm (0.303in) machine gun; up to 18 passengers

It was 3 engine and kinda looks like a Ju52.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2004, 09:06:38 AM »
Cool, though if HTC could code it so that transports could carry crewed GVs, I would be much in favor of the Me323 Gigant.

Would be neat to have a flight of Gigants airlift a few panzers, m16s and M3s into an area for base capture...
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2004, 09:44:24 AM »
Unless a single fighter spotted them :)
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2004, 10:23:54 AM »
A single fighter might have trouble dispatching more than one Gigant. It had rather good defencive firepower.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2004, 02:28:21 PM »
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A single fighter might have trouble dispatching more than one Gigant. It had rather good defencive firepower.


Every source I can find quotes the armament as five MG15 7.92 mm machine guns, all hand trained.  I think it would be a cakewalk to shoot one down.

Do you have different information from your sources?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2004, 02:54:31 PM »
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Every source I can find quotes the armament as five MG15 7.92 mm machine guns, all hand trained.  I think it would be a cakewalk to shoot one down.

Do you have different information from your sources?


Early models carried the lmg but later models carried 13mm hmg and 20mm cannon.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2004, 03:18:31 PM »
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Every source I can find quotes the armament as five MG15 7.92 mm machine guns, all hand trained.  I think it would be a cakewalk to shoot one down.

Do you have different information from your sources?


Those were the initial versions. Most Gigants had five 13mm MG 131s, and the final production version added a 20mm MG 151 turret above each centre-engine nacelle.

The specialised Me 323E-2/WT had no less than 11 20mm MG 151's and 5 MG 131 plus several tons of armor.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2004, 06:48:57 PM »
Oh,  I definitely think I'd want a horde of escorts if I were to pilot that baby.

An airlifted offensive might be interesting, but I wouldn't want it so popluar that we never so land or sea assaults again.   Always a question of balance...
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2004, 07:57:28 PM »
A  very nice Idea for our bomber perks.

:) :) :)
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2004, 09:10:40 PM »
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A single fighter might have trouble dispatching more than one Gigant. It had rather good defencive firepower.


I clearly have too many books.  You guys mention it and I start seeing the photos

A Gigant that was part of a formation intercepted over the Gulf of Tunis by Spits and Kittyhawks.  There were heavy losses to the German transports.

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2004, 10:27:21 PM »
Can we have a solid gun nose A-26 to hunt them with?
The  forward firing .50's could run as high as :
8 underwing guns in pods
Six in-wing guns (.50's or .30's?, was this only in K's ?)
six or eight nose guns (eight in K's only?)
two top turret guns

The gun nose was swapped onto "glass nose" 26's in the field, to allow for lots of options not "on the books".

Somewhere from eight to twenty-four guns...

"Jack the Gigant Killer"  :p

I got to ride in the copilot's seat in one up in Alaska in '76. Damn near the only good thing I did that year... The flight was a real good facsimile of a tactical bomb run. The A-26 was used to drop a melting agent onto the frozen Yukon river to stop ice jams from flooding the field during spring break-up.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2004, 11:38:58 PM »
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Can we have a solid gun nose A-26 to hunt them with?
The  forward firing .50's could run as high as :
8 underwing guns in pods
Six in-wing guns (.50's or .30's?, was this only in K's ?)
six or eight nose guns (eight in K's only?)
two top turret guns

The gun nose was swapped onto "glass nose" 26's in the field, to allow for lots of options not "on the books".

Somewhere from eight to twenty-four guns...

"Jack the Gigant Killer"  :p

I got to ride in the copilot's seat in one up in Alaska in '76. Damn near the only good thing I did that year... The flight was a real good facsimile of a tactical bomb run. The A-26 was used to drop a melting agent onto the frozen Yukon river to stop ice jams from flooding the field during spring break-up.


Actually you aren't too far off. How bout B25s instead?  And here it goes again with me being reminded of an image.

B25s escorted by P38s caught a bunch of Ju52s over the Sicilian Straits and shot down 26 of them

Dan/Slack
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2004, 12:47:22 AM »
How about the Ju352 "Hercules"?  260 MPH, 1x20mm, 2x13mm guns.
http://users.belgacom.net/aircraft1/avion1/351.html
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2004, 03:23:35 AM »
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I clearly have too many books.  You guys mention it and I start seeing the photos

A Gigant that was part of a formation intercepted over the Gulf of Tunis by Spits and Kittyhawks.  There were heavy losses to the German transports.

Dan/Slack


Don't confuse real life with AH now.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2004, 04:03:42 AM »
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Don't confuse real life with AH now.


Guppy, then there was the Palm Sunday Massacre?

"April 18, 1943. Over Cape Bon, Tunisia, an Axis force of *60 Junkers Ju 52 transports escorted by 21 Messerschmitt Bf 109 and MC. 202 fighters were headed for the island of Sicily when they were spotted by patrolling P-40Fs of the 57th FGs three component Squadrons and the 314th FS of the 324th FG with a high cover of RAF Supermarine Spitfire Vs from No. 92 Squadron. The American P-40s dove out of the sun and when the smoke had cleared, 59 Ju 52s and 16 fighters had been shot down for the loss of 6 P-40s - arguably the finest single engagement for the P-40 Warhawks ever."
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