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« Reply #120 on: December 30, 2004, 03:24:31 PM »
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It always amazes me these peeing contest over which country does what and how much relief money is needed, hey how about some of these corporations that make more than  third world countries donating there share, hmm cheap labor they use over there for products sold here,  Hmm  i bet Microsoft could shuck out 50 mil  or BMW   or Michelin,   hey how bout BP or Exxon even, heck even old Donald can go yer fired and send a few million this is global yall and the effect are just starting  and will continue in a world economy, maybe ask yoursleves how much is My company helping out.


Private companies joined the act. Many in Europe and the United States have said they will match contributions by employees. Others have donated cash outright.

The American drugmaker Pfizer Inc. has pledged $10 million in cash and $25 million in medical supplies; Johnson & Johnson $2 million plus supplies; and finance group J.P. Morgan Chase up to $3 million, including matched employee contributions.

The British telecoms firm Vodafone pledged nearly $2 million, the Dutch financial services group ING pledged $1 million and the German utility firm E.ON donated $1.4 million.

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« Reply #121 on: December 30, 2004, 03:43:45 PM »
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and once again the US having to defend it's actions on the international stage.


...-Gixer



I belive you hit the nail on the head!

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« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2004, 05:16:42 PM »
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I always rated this community pretty poor on most subjects of any real importance  but this one  really takes the cake.

...-Gixer


Take a look in the mirror Gixer ;)

Like it or not, you are part of this community, in fact you would be one of the prime instigators of some of the negative reactions/followups around here.

If you have issues with this community, then you need to take a long look at your on posts, actions, and input.

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« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2004, 08:26:49 PM »
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If Egeland got you Scrooges to open up your fat wallets a little more, then he did a good job.


Fat wallets? Hehe you are so misinformed GS its unreal. Very few Americans have truly *fat wallets*. The vast majority of us live from payday to payday struggling to pay the utility bills, mortgages/rent, buying food, paying for our kids clothes etc etc.

Not long ago you were ranting about how America's economic collapse was imminent, how bad off we were. Now you completely reverse your position and accuse us of being stingy rich people.

I dont have much, but I will bet it ALL that America will end up giving BILLIONS long after you and the rest of Norway have forgotten about the terrible tsunamis in southeast Asia.

To all of you turning this thread into a pissing contest over who is giving the most.....you disgust me. In fact, you disgust me even more than professional athletes (who make more for playing ONE game than my wife and I do in an entire year) going on strike for more money and benefits.

I spoke to my wife on the phone just a bit ago, we agreed to give something (how much we can swing remains to be seen), we also agreed that most likely clothes for the kids will wait a few weeks so we can do this. (again, it remains to be seen, something else might *wait*)
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« Reply #124 on: December 30, 2004, 10:50:14 PM »
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Fat wallets? Hehe you are so misinformed GS its unreal. Very few Americans have truly *fat wallets*. The vast majority of us live from payday to payday struggling to pay the utility bills, mortgages/rent, buying food, paying for our kids clothes etc etc.

Not long ago you were ranting about how America's economic collapse was imminent, how bad off we were. Now you completely reverse your position and accuse us of being stingy rich people.

I dont have much, but I will bet it ALL that America will end up giving BILLIONS long after you and the rest of Norway have forgotten about the terrible tsunamis in southeast Asia.

To all of you turning this thread into a pissing contest over who is giving the most.....you disgust me. In fact, you disgust me even more than professional athletes (who make more for playing ONE game than my wife and I do in an entire year) going on strike for more money and benefits.

I spoke to my wife on the phone just a bit ago, we agreed to give something (how much we can swing remains to be seen), we also agreed that most likely clothes for the kids will wait a few weeks so we can do this. (again, it remains to be seen, something else might *wait*)


If you actually think he is informed on what he is talking about  .... you are more delusional than he is.......

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« Reply #125 on: December 31, 2004, 08:42:15 AM »
I would feel really guilty giving any m,oney away since sclotzie has told me that it is only our debt to norway and other enlightened countries that allows us to have any standard of living at all...  If I gave any money it would be like taking food out of the mouth of sclotzies children..  

If you send anything to the red cross you better have the sense to go with it to keep it out of the pockets of the "adminestrators"  by the time it gets to anyone who needs it it will be nothing more than a soggy cardboard cup of lukewarm coffee or some WWII surpluss cots.

you guys should look into the red cross before getting all knee jerk.    Send money to the salvation army or some other less scam organization.

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« Reply #126 on: December 31, 2004, 01:46:05 PM »
Laz,

I challenge your assertion that the American Red Cross does not efficiently spend the charitable donations it receives.    The new CEO, Marsha Johnson Evans, earns a base salary of only $621,435 (not including benefits or deferred compensation).   That is far less than the outgoing CEO, who earned $450,000 annually but received a $1.5 million severance package.

People need to know their donations are doing what the intend for it, and your bad mouthing of the American Red Cross may keep money out of the pockets of those who depend on it!

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« Reply #127 on: December 31, 2004, 01:49:20 PM »
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Laz,

   The new CEO, Marsha Johnson Evans, earns a base salary of only $621,435 (not including benefits or deferred compensation).    


How can she survive on that pay?

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« Reply #128 on: December 31, 2004, 02:02:19 PM »
well... I certainly wouldn't like to be responsible for taking money out of the pockets of marsha evans or her huge staff.

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« Reply #129 on: December 31, 2004, 02:33:10 PM »
I'd just like to make a few points to put this string into some proper context.

Before beginning, however, I would just say that I'm sure everyone joins me in feeling a terrible sadness for all those whose lives have been lost and also in a feeling of utter powerlessness in the face of such a cataclysmic event.  I wish there was something tangible I could do, other than donating a few pounds to a relief fund.  

My heart also goes out to all those who have survived the event, or were safely away from it, but who know or are uncertain of the fate of friends and/or family who may have been involved.

I don't think so, but it may be that I have two friends in that area.  I know they were headed to Vietnam before Christmas, but I fear their plans may have included going on to Thailand.  I certainly hope that they did not do that.

This extract is from the BBC News online service today and I feel it puts Jan Egeland's point into the proper light.  He was clearly making that statement in relation to aid fund donations in general, and most certainly not those funds donated by States specifically in response to this disaster.

The full text of the report can be found at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4130127.stm

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World helps - but will it forget?

'Stingy' rich

The second stage is for medium and long term help. The UN is holding a conference next month to discuss the next steps following this disaster. Already the UN's emergency co-coordinator Jan Egeland has said this might be the worst natural disaster ever. That implies the need for unusually large contributions.

He is also complaining that rich countries are not giving enough to the poor anyway.

"It is beyond me why we are so stingy. Really. Christmas time should remind many Western countries at least, how rich we have become," he said.

"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy."

He suggested that governments "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."

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I think what this debate on our forum is bringing up is that States are suddenly finding that the level of funds they pledge to disaster relief is being almost instantly bettered by private individual donations within their own countries.  Here in the UK, the Government immediately pledged £15 million in relief.  This was very soon dwarfed by the figure raised by public donations.

This taken from BBC News online today:

UK tsunami donations reach £45m

The British public has donated £45m to help the victims of the Asian tsunami, say relief charities.

Up to £1m an hour has been donated and the government has raised its pledge from £15m to £50m, making it one of the largest international donors.

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I'm not a religious man, but I pray that the situation does not become worse due to disease among survivors lacking proper sanitation and medical aid.
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« Reply #130 on: December 31, 2004, 02:34:48 PM »
News said the U.S. is now going to give over 300 million in aid.
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« Reply #131 on: December 31, 2004, 03:22:56 PM »
U.S. Boosts Tsunami Aid Tenfold to $350M

DEB RIECHMANN

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CRAWFORD, Texas - The United States is pledging $350 million to help tsunami victims, a tenfold increase over its first wave of aid, President Bush announced Friday.

"Initial findings of American assessment teams on the ground indicate that the need for financial and other assistance will steadily increase in the days and weeks ahead," Bush said Friday in a statement released in Crawford, Texas, where he is staying at his ranch.

"Our contributions will continue to be revised as the full effects of this terrible tragedy become clearer," he said. "Our thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this epic disaster."

Bush also is sending Secretary of State Colin Powell to Indian Ocean coastal areas ravaged by earthquake and tsunami to assess what more the United States needs to do. The president's brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, will travel with him.

The newly announced aid came after some critics claimed that the initial U.S. contribution of $35 million was meager considering the vast wealth of the nation.

France has promised $57 million, Britain has pledged $95 million, Sweden is sending $75.5 million and Spain is offering $68 million, although that pledge is partly in loans.

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« Reply #132 on: December 31, 2004, 03:27:25 PM »
well what i have read over..

Schlumpz and Gixer..

both of you are scum...


You post that we are cheap..with out knwoing wtf u are talking about..


tooo funny..now what...You will say we were forced to give HUNDREDS of Millions to the releif..


truly scum.....I hope you have a rotten year

GET OFF OUR JOCKS

Die and go to hell if we didnt meet your instant expectations ...We..sent military over and have now seen how crappy it is over there..we provide when we find the rigth thing to do..which was skip the disgusting UN "admin fees"..i love it..die scum ..die..there are many other humans that deserve bettr then what you have.


again.....USA gives more aid then the rest of you combined ..but you complain..truly maggots

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« Reply #133 on: December 31, 2004, 03:34:42 PM »
U.S. Boosts Tsunami Aid to $350M
Friday, December 31, 2004
 
WASHINGTON — The United States is pledging $350 million to help tsunami victims, a tenfold increase over its first wave of aid, President Bush announced Friday.

Bush also is sending Secretary of State Colin Powell (search) to areas ravaged by earthquake and tsunami to assess what more the United States needs to do. The president's brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, will travel with him.

The newly announced aid came after some critics claimed that the initial U.S. contribution of $35 million was meager considering the vast wealth of the nation.

France has promised $57 million, Britain has pledged $95 million, Sweden is sending $75.5 million and Spain is offering $68 million, although that pledge is partly in loans. From FOXNEWS

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« Reply #134 on: December 31, 2004, 03:38:00 PM »
Schlumpz and Gixer.. ES&D!

Nice that you sit in yer lil freekin Worlds and critisize the USA, yet your Country has niether the Balls or the Freekin $$$ to make a difference in this World.

Sooo slither back under yer lil wet rocks and when the next catrastphe happens just pray it isn't YOUR  Fargin Country begging for $$$$ relief from the USA.   We just might fuggin remember.

Wouldn't that be a knot in yer worthless lil panties?



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