Why Does this lame stuff happen? Htc read please

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Lizard3
Me, at number 23 overall thought I'd check my fighter score and lo and behold, im at 64...and here I thought I sucked. Oh, I still do...but I have come along way.

Please, send MORE dweebs!!!

I didn't cover those that DO have the "package" and are already ranked low ... I didn't think that needed to be covered.

[lada]

naaa that picture sux.... my is better



orel

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by mechanic
are we forgetting the single most important fact?  

Ya probably did HO him spade!!


no need to get angry and PM fro that tho.

peace

Exactly. Why should this warrant such a comment?
I think we all know that Head On Shots are eminent eventually.
No real need to PM for this.
In fact most HO’s, prolly upwards of 93% or better are the end result of a turn fight that leaves both pilots getting the same turn rate ending in a nose to nose confrontation after every reversal. Sure you can try to avoid at this point. But nearly ever HO avoidance tactic at this point is greatly hampered by the lack of speed to get the desired effect out of any control surface input you may attempt to use.
Answer?
We must learn to access the situation earlier on and make the decision to disengage while we still can. Harder that it would seem i know. I on the other hand tend to chose incorrectly 95% of the time. LOL

[Vudak]

Originally posted by SlapShot
navajo ...

If you have been HOed 4 or 5 times in a row, then you really need to take a look at your approach to fighting and change it ... immediately. If this is the case, then you are the cause of your own angst ... not the guy who shot you.

Granted, some HOs are unavoidable when in close fighting happens in a furball, but if there is time (and there should be) 99.99% of HOs can be avoided.

This game is a stress reliever and adrenalin high for me. If the game is causing the stress that pushes one to send these types of private messages, then that person's approach to this game is all wrong IMHO.

Slapshot,

I'm not sure he meant "was hit by ho's 6 times in a row", just that they went after him for the shot.

You've never flown into bad odds, expecting to die of course, and you have to pass through 5-6 on your way to the back?  You really can't do much save jink a bit or maybe roll through the first few, if you try to aggressively avoid their attempts, you're going to be cherry picked by the tail end.  So your only real option is to try to defensively avoid the early hos before moving in for a lead turn of some sort at the last one.  And the sad fact is, nearly all of them will, inevitably, attempt to HO you.

Personally, I think that's just really poor form on the part of the 6.  Sure, it is 100% my fault for going into bad odds...  But is it really necessary for them to take those desperation shots?  Wouldn't THEY be better off going for a lead turn?  

I love running into guys who don't Ho.  When you run into someone who doesn't take a HO shot on the first merge, you know two things:

* This guy has a clue
* This fight will be fun

Now I have to say, I don't get hit by many HOs anymore simply because I've had so much practice at avoiding them.  That said, it's remarkable how many people I run into that start spraying from 1000+ or greater on the first merge, no matter what the odds.

Bottom line is, it really doesn't "Take two to HO" as so many people are fond of saying.  Perhaps a better phrase would be "it takes two to joust".

I dunno.  Touchy subject as always.  I just chalk it up as another player-caused reason that the MA can get real mundane at times.  But hell, compared to blowing up FHs and sinking CVs (effectively, making me climb to fights again - the horror), or running around forever on 1v1s, getting HO'd at is a looooong way down the list of my pet peeves.

Anyway, just my 2cents.  Off to the Lake (frozen, pointless?), happy hunting everyone, I'll see you all next year!

[Vad]

First. I am talking about fighter rank, not overall rank. I don't want to say that overall rank means nothing, but I am interesting in fighter combat only.

Second. I have never said that guys you metioned are bad pilots. They are good no matter what method of comparison we choose - rank or ACM skills. According to you they are great in ACM, but it is proven that they can have #1 rank if they want. I remember HTC promotion, and results were published on the web. All that guys got their one (or half , I don't remember)  month free, didn't they?

ok, now.
When you are talking about ACM skills it is just part of picture. Footballer must be fast enough but it doesn't make world champion in sprint the greatest footballer.

For example, you want to compare two pilots. Instead of going to DA and kill each other they can go to MA and take off from the same field near friendly capped field, for instance. They have to kill as many enemies as possible during 2 hours or till they die whatever comes first. Is it legitimate way to compare pilot skills? Why not, it is like a mini TOD. But this method is very close to existing rank system. So, statement that rank system means nothing is BS, what  has to be proven.

 

[SlapShot]

You've never flown into bad odds, expecting to die of course, and you have to pass through 5-6 on your way to the back?

Never !!! ... it's way to scarey for me and I abhore dieing ...

[FBRaptor]

This just shows that pacerr is a whiney little crybaby who is also a sore loser. Unfortunantly there are several of these guys currently flying. It is sad that these guys are allowed to PM and insult people. There should be a "no call" list lol, people who are proven to do this lose typing abilities for a week!!! But don't expect HTC to do anything about it.

[SlapShot]

For example, you want to compare two pilots. Instead of going to DA and kill each other they can go to MA and take off from the same field near friendly capped field, for instance. They have to kill as many enemies as possible during 2 hours or till they die whatever comes first. Is it legitimate way to compare pilot skills?

Sounds good to me ... but, in essence, that is not how the ranking system works ... and that is why RANK MEANS watermelon (to me) !!!

Prime case ... in Fighter Mode, hit percentage suffers when one fires at anything other than a plane. So, if I choose to help deack a field while in fighter mode, my hit percentage will suffer and really doesn't truly reflect my marksmanship while fighting A to A, which in turn degredates the fighter rank. This provides misleading numbers.

I know ... I know ... "don't do that" ... I just can't help myself.

For the most part, we all know who can walk the walk without the ranking system ... it's those who hold it high in the air and claim greatness or some special status from it, is what bothers me.

[Vad]

Originally posted by SlapShot

For the most part, we all know who can walk the walk without the ranking system ...  

It is not true also.

I had one kill on Shane. It was half a year ago, I was green and stupid, and had no idea who Shane is.
On my P51D I engaged low and slow La-7. I had everything - alt, E, position. After few seconds I had nothing - no alt, no speed, but what I had is Shane on my six. Next  several minutes I did everything what I could to break away but without any success. Finally I gave up, drop gears and flaps, and tried to keep my speed as low as possible. Shane was 0 - 200 yards behind, but he didn't shot! I don't know what happened - he run out of gas, lost control or just bored, - but I have got maneuver kill.

Ok, I took a look into roster. Without rank system I would still consider Shane dweeb, who can't even control a plane no talking about ACM, and would be very proud about my fighter skills.

[navajoboy]

Originally posted by Vudak
Slapshot,

I'm not sure he meant "was hit by ho's 6 times in a row", just that they went after him for the shot.

You've never flown into bad odds, expecting to die of course, and you have to pass through 5-6 on your way to the back?  You really can't do much save jink a bit or maybe roll through the first few, if you try to aggressively avoid their attempts, you're going to be cherry picked by the tail end.  So your only real option is to try to defensively avoid the early hos before moving in for a lead turn of some sort at the last one.  And the sad fact is, nearly all of them will, inevitably, attempt to HO you.

Personally, I think that's just really poor form on the part of the 6.  Sure, it is 100% my fault for going into bad odds...  But is it really necessary for them to take those desperation shots?  Wouldn't THEY be better off going for a lead turn?  

I love running into guys who don't Ho.  When you run into someone who doesn't take a HO shot on the first merge, you know two things:

* This guy has a clue
* This fight will be fun

Now I have to say, I don't get hit by many HOs anymore simply because I've had so much practice at avoiding them.  That said, it's remarkable how many people I run into that start spraying from 1000+ or greater on the first merge, no matter what the odds.

Bottom line is, it really doesn't "Take two to HO" as so many people are fond of saying.  Perhaps a better phrase would be "it takes two to joust".

I dunno.  Touchy subject as always.  I just chalk it up as another player-caused reason that the MA can get real mundane at times.  But hell, compared to blowing up FHs and sinking CVs (effectively, making me climb to fights again - the horror), or running around forever on 1v1s, getting HO'd at is a looooong way down the list of my pet peeves.

Anyway, just my 2cents.  Off to the Lake (frozen, pointless?), happy hunting everyone, I'll see you all next year!

YES!! thanks Vudak!! that is exactly right.
and yes slapshot. this is a stress relief ... but how do you explain the complaints all over this message board?

You can't really because everyone is different...  Some people are just jackprettythanges, and some people are just to serious about the game.

Its good to know that you take it as stress relief.. I myself do enjoy the game... HO's and all.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by SlapShot
... and that is why RANK MEANS watermelon (to me) !!!

Means watermelon to me because I learned how to manipulate it and it is something most anyone, beyond the 2 week free trial, can do.  It isn't difficult and doesn't require a lot of skill (except skill in scoring ). It also isn't fun and can be quite tedious at times. 'Bout the only thing I haven't learned to manipulate in the scoring system is the hit percentage (my gunnery simply sucks ).

[Redd]

Originally posted by Vad
First. I am talking about fighter rank, not overall rank. I don't want to say that overall rank means nothing, but I am interesting in fighter combat only.

Second. I have never said that guys you metioned are bad pilots. They are good no matter what method of comparison we choose - rank or ACM skills. According to you they are great in ACM, but it is proven that they can have #1 rank if they want. I remember HTC promotion, and results were published on the web. All that guys got their one (or half , I don't remember)  month free, didn't they?

ok, now.
When you are talking about ACM skills it is just part of picture. Footballer must be fast enough but it doesn't make world champion in sprint the greatest footballer.

For example, you want to compare two pilots. Instead of going to DA and kill each other they can go to MA and take off from the same field near friendly capped field, for instance. They have to kill as many enemies as possible during 2 hours or till they die whatever comes first. Is it legitimate way to compare pilot skills? Why not, it is like a mini TOD. But this method is very close to existing rank system. So, statement that rank system means nothing is BS, what  has to be proven.

 

Vad,

Fighter Rank  means little , when folks achieve it purely through vulching enemy fields.

There a couple of notable high ranking pilots, that you will never see at any other time than a  "green light"  vulch.

Amazing what massive periods of vulching will do for your  K/S K/T Gunnery % and K/D.


So , no , 1-1 down and dirty is how you compare pilot skill, not by the stats

[tactic]

But, if you have rank, you can be a meanie and take ships away from those who dont have good ranking.   Complete control of all ships!   You can be the man! err woman .  the captain of all seamen..  lmao!   see what all that ranking can mean!  eh?  then you can write your name in the sea and noone can erase it, unless of course they out rank you!  Well thats all great rank does for ya, did i cover everything?  

oh wait, you look really cool when your friends are over playing barbies and you show them your ranking on AH, the cool status is only for those ranked under 200.  Ranked 201 and above is so uncool looking, it just dont have that cool ring to it.  lmmfao!

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Vad
It is not true also.

I had one kill on Shane. It was half a year ago, I was green and stupid, and had no idea who Shane is.
On my P51D I engaged low and slow La-7. I had everything - alt, E, position. After few seconds I had nothing - no alt, no speed, but what I had is Shane on my six. Next  several minutes I did everything what I could to break away but without any success. Finally I gave up, drop gears and flaps, and tried to keep my speed as low as possible. Shane was 0 - 200 yards behind, but he didn't shot! I don't know what happened - he run out of gas, lost control or just bored, - but I have got maneuver kill.

Ok, I took a look into roster. Without rank system I would still consider Shane dweeb, who can't even control a plane no talking about ACM, and would be very proud about my fighter skills.

Don't know what to say  ... 'cept WTF are you talking about ?

[DipStick]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Don't know what to say  ... 'cept WTF are you talking about ?

Thanks Slap, just covered my monitor in coffee.