China, the UN and the Korean war

[cpxxx]

Nuke, what is your alternative to the UN? Perhaps you want to revert to the situation pertaining before the Great war. A series of alliances and power blocs. The result was that one single incident precipitated a four year war because there was no forum to prevent it. Or maybe something like before WW2 when the ineffective League of Nations was simply ignored by everyone.

Neither is a good example.

So what is your alternative? I doubt if you have one.  Maybe you'd like to suggest alternative to all the aspects of the UN. UNESCO, UNHCR and all the peace keeping missions throughout the world?  Do you think the US military is either capable or willing to carry them out alone?

By the way calling the UN 'a bunch of theives' (your spelling) is hardly a valid point. The UN consists of most countries of the world. Your comment makes no sense.  

Where did this anti UN stuff come from? Is it because it didn't fall into line with the current Republican, George Bush agenda? Or do you think like so many seem that the UN is a giant conspiracy attempting to take over the world, particularly the USA?  I think you have been the victim of propaganda.

[Lizking]

when the ineffective League of Nations was simply ignored by everyone.

In case you do not realize it, the UN is very close to being in the same position right now.

[Suave]

The UN was created to prevent states like the USSR from existing. It was stupid to let the USSR join the UN. Yes, even though the USSR was part of the UN, USSR personel engaged in combat with UN forces on the korean peninsula. UN POW personel were held in prisons inside the soveit union.

The soviets would of course deny all of this. And claim that the Korean conflict was a result of an american lead invasion of North Korea.

[-tronski-]

Originally posted by NUKE
The whole concept of the UN was already being shown as a joke even back then.

Take away the "UN" title and the Korean war was a war between China, NK, SK and mostly the US was the nation that stopped them. The UN really meant little other than in name.

I can't believe the UN is respected by people like you, in all honesty. What has the UN done for anyone that the US and her allies didn't really do on their own anyway?

her allies?

Korea, like it or not, was named a UN mission by Truman - and so it's supposed failures are therefore also just american failures then?

Originally posted by Suave
The UN was created to prevent states like the USSR from existing. It was stupid to let the USSR join the UN. Yes, even though the USSR was part of the UN, USSR personel engaged in combat with UN forces on the korean peninsula. UN POW personel were held in prisons inside the soveit union.

The soviets would of course deny all of this. And claim that the Korean conflict was a result of an american lead invasion of North Korea.

The foundations of the UN were created whilst the USSR was still an ally against the germans and japanese.

 Tronsky

[Suave]

I know. And that doesn't make it less stupid.

[soda72]

Originally posted by straffo
hmmm it was not really the USSR but more the Chinese and North Corean that fought.

USSR did have pilots flying mig's for the north... not sure if they participated in the ground war though..

[detch01]

Originally posted by NUKE
... the Korean war was a war between China, NK, SK and mostly the US was the nation that stopped them

Them oats have already been through the horse.


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