how can we imprison people without evidence?

[Yeager]

well it goes without saying but I'm going to say it anway:

gschmoltz is a putz

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Well, actually you have to thank the terrorists for that one since it is now physically impossible to jump from the WTC towers.

If you guys are willing to become a banana republic to fight terrorism then I guess the terrorists have already won. Well ... it is quite evident that they have already won and America is no longer what it was.

You are over the top. What's with your American fetish?  What's your problem?

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by GScholz
... and the cigarette burns, dog attacks, murders and other crap must go.

cause of course we ALL KNOW for a FACT backed up by credible SOURCES that tortue and maltreatment of criminals and terrorists alike is status quo....IE not the exception but the rule.

But then again, he asks questions that really makes you wonder, dos´nt he? And if he did´nt, would you even think about why thoose Saudis where rushed out of the country 9/11?

PATRONE,

You must be trolling here!

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
I'm over the top? Right now I have a slight cold and it's getting late here. Other than that I can't say I have any problems right now.

I'm going to assume you are basically a troll and get your kicks out of making stupid statements to get under the American's skins here.

The bottom line is that you revell in expressing negative feelings towards America. You are nothing more than an ignorant troll.

[Otto]

Originally posted by GScholz
Btw. that does not mean I'm not arrogant as well. I know I am.

Thank you....

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by GScholz
The fact that routine torture of prisoners is under investigation is worrying enough. As for isolated incidents, don't you think you should have a bit more control over your armed forces? It's not like we hear about British soldiers torturing or murdering prisoners.

Also, please stop "importing" torture. It may be technically legal to ship prisoners to places like Syria, Egypt and Pakistan and collect them later along with the info they beat out of them ... but it hardly makes you look like good guys.

what's funny is that you so easily buy into this propaganda.  I'd really like to know were you get your information from.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Sometimes I do troll yes, but most times I simply have opposing views with you arrogant right-wing extremist types.

Btw. that does not mean I'm not arrogant as well. I know I am.

well, maybe you could lighten up a little and show a little sense of humor or personality so we could accept that part of you a little easier.

People like Nash, Beetle, Nilsen, Sandman,  and others who I do not see eye to eye with a lot of things, still have my respect and I like them.

You are different it seems.....but I still have an open mind and can accept that you don't agree with me or others here.

Just seems like you could lighten up a little bit.

[Drunky]

Originally posted by moose
how can we imprison people without evidence?

Step 1: Choose someone
Step 2: Arrest them
Step 3: Throw them in prison
Step 4: Leave them there

[Drunky]

Originally posted by GScholz
Sometimes I do troll yes, but most times I simply have opposing views with you arrogant right-wing extremist types.

Btw. that does not mean I'm not arrogant as well. I know I am.

HAHAHA.  Look!  GScholz is making even more friends.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by GScholz
Deputy Assistant Director for Counterterrorism Thomas Harrington, FBI. His memos and statements have been widely published.

I fail to see how this fits into the current subject?

[Thrawn]

Gunslinger:

"what's funny is that you so easily buy into this propaganda. I'd really like to know were you get your information from."


GScholz:


"Deputy Assistant Director for Counterterrorism Thomas Harrington, FBI. His memos and statements have been widely published."

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I fail to see how this fits into the current subject?

Wow.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Yeager
well it goes without saying but I'm going to say it anway:

gschmoltz is a putz

He has nation envy.  The affliction is common in Europe.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Gunslinger:

"what's funny is that you so easily buy into this propaganda. I'd really like to know were you get your information from."


GScholz:


"Deputy Assistant Director for Counterterrorism Thomas Harrington, FBI. His memos and statements have been widely published."






Wow.

I still fail to see his point.  "I read memos once so I know"  If you have specific information to share with the group then by all means share it.  I've read lots of stuff but just because I read it doesn't make it true nore does it prove my point in an argument.

I fail to see how you having read FBI memos brings any bearing to the current discussion.  If you would care to elaborate with specifics then by all means enlighten us.

Yes thrawn....truely wow

[Toad]

Originally posted by Nashwan
the supreme court didn't order his release on technical grounds.

I think it's key to note his case and argument made it to the US Supreme Court.

One would think they'd have intervened if they saw a major problem with his treatment so far, wouldn't one?

[Krusher]

I don't know what should be done.. Maybe they should all be sent home, maybe they should all be held until the end of hostilities.  When you capture individuals in a combat situation, you have the right to hold them until the fight is over.  A very large chunk of the gitmo terrorist were captured in battle so they should not be released.  It is certainly a damned if you do damned if you dont situation. Some of the 200+ Gitmo prisoners who have been released have  turned up back in Afghanistan, fighting with Taliban forces.  At least one has been killed in battle since his return.  Danish national Slimane Hadj Abderrahmane, announced in September he planned to travel to Chechnya and fight Russian forces.  I think he has recanted since then but I bet the Danes dont have a clue where he is.

Here is a real winner..

http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/weinreb041904.htm

The Khadrs are quite the little family. Ahmed, 57, was killed last October in a fight with the Pakistani army near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. It was in that battle that 14-year-old Karim was injured and paralyzed. Son Omar is currently being held in Guantanamo Bay after he was captured in a firefight. This little darling is accused of throwing a grenade that caused the death of an American medic. Their brother Abduallah’s whereabouts are unknown and it is believed that he is somewhere in the tribal area of Pakistan, close to where his father was killed. Brother Abdurahman is back living in Toronto after having been released from Guantanamo Bay and claims to have worked for U.S. intelligence agencies. Since the prodigal son’s return, Abdurahman has admitted that his family is an "al-Qaeda" family and close to Osama bin Laden.