Hordes!

[victor]

In order to bust the hordes a new strategy has to be used, instead of uppin huge missions to a single base,why not try usin 1-2 small squads or groups to attack a single base while another small group attacks another base a few sectors away hence the horde becomes several small gruops attacking different bases at the same time.human nature will take over the large horde as they see thier # of bases shrinking, and they'll respond,probally in large groups at first  then as they rrealize they cant keep up with the army of smaller groups overtaking them they'll dispearse to fend off the attacks and thus the horde problem will start to diminish over time and that  isnt taking into account the lil generals who are constantly trying to get peeps to do base ops anyway,so the horde begins to have to forces to deal with.just thought I would throw that in for free.

VIC

[jamusta]

GOOD GAWD... Are you new to the game skydancer? Chances are, you are... People gravitate towards each other because they are score potatos, afraid to lose their rank or just simply do not have the skill nor the desire to aquire the skills to dogfight. So next time you are online look at the dar bars. You will see for the most part players from different side avoiding each other. I dont mind building battlers, heck I was dropping hangers last night. I dont even mind NOE missions. I just cant stand to see players in a flight sim avoiding each other because they are afraid to be shot down in a game.

[lazs2]

skydancer.. I know you are probly new so before I form an opinion...

Could you please tell me what you consider to be "action" and "fun" in regardes to the MA?

I think a lot of the new guys think this is a thrill a minute compared to their other hobby of watching sports on TV.

lazs

[Vad]

Originally posted by jamusta
...People gravitate towards each other because they are score potatos, afraid to lose their rank...  

You can't get high rank avoiding enemies and flying in hordes. It is imposible to get good k/d,  k/s and k/time at the same time if there are no enemies around, or you have to compete with your country men for every kill.

[jamusta]

Vad how do you figure? 1 good sortie is all it takes in fighter. Or you can simply fly high and cherry someone elses hard work. Get to a base and vulch. You can rack up very good stats doing that.

[victor]

Jam take another one of the lil blue pills.

[jamusta]

yes sir vic sir......

[victor]

there now you feel better?BTW SHOULD BE ON MONDAY PM AROUND 8


Vic

[Kev367th]

Jamusta - I think a lot of horde mentality is newbies who feel safer with 'friends' around them.
Can't really blame them AH2 has a steep learning curve.
As for score, everyone in the know, knows that in AH2 rank just means you know how to game the game and is irrelevant.
Some of the best sticks in the game don't have a particular good rank but you know when you find one.
In fact a few of high ranked players are WELL known for their vulch and run method of play.

Vad - As Jamusta said, only takes a few 'good' runs.

Unfortuneately I can't see the horde mentality dissappearing soon .

[jamusta]

Yeah if you look at alot of the top 100 ranked players alot of them are just average fighter pilots. Some I know for sure I can whip but they have these high k/d k/s but they fly around in cannon planes and vulch many times. On the other hand alot of the better fighter jocks ranks and scores blows because they are in it to fight.

[jamusta]

Originally posted by victor
there now you feel better?BTW SHOULD BE ON MONDAY PM AROUND 8


Vic

Well its about darn time you come back

[VWE]

I never cherry picked you last night... but SA2, yeah I picked him a couple of times!

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by jamusta
Yeah if you look at alot of the top 100 ranked players alot of them are just average fighter pilots. Some I know for sure I can whip but they have these high k/d k/s but they fly around in cannon planes and vulch many times. On the other hand alot of the better fighter jocks ranks and scores blows because they are in it to fight.

Gotta admit to being a cannon guy myself (Tiffy). Think I've had 2 vulches the last week, rest have been defending bases against a 'horde'.
Not saying I'm a great stick, but do think I'm a little above average. Learning the hard way, and still make dumb mistakes, ask birdo!
K/S I don't worry about, lost count of the number of times I've got on the runway to find out I have wrong loadout and just towered out. Or upped at a base to kill a 'lone' con. Don't have the patience for rearm\refuel, just grab a new one.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by TexMurphy

ToD will be a totally new ball game. Some people will like it. Some people wount. Some people will like parts of it and hate other parts. Some people will whine about it. But how much you as an individual like it or not is very much up to your expectations. You expect ToD to be somethin it aint you will be disapointed. You expect ToD to achive something it never ment to achive you will be disapointed.

Tex

  TOD will do just exactly what is being designed to do. Give the box gamers a place online to go instead of the MA.

[Skydancer]

Well I'm not so new. I do think however that the Hordes thing is a symptom of the way the game is set up. I do think that the planeset though good could do with being rotated so that early war planes get used against each other. It seems that theres realy no point in P40's Spit 1's  109E's etc No one uses them. All I ever see is La7s Ponys Spit 9's etc. Uber fighters vulching bases or as you say flying en masse to bases without much enemy. Also I'm admittedly no hot pilot so I never getto fly 262's or comets or tempests etc. Revolve the set chronogicaly it would be more interesting and perhaps require more skill.

In short I think if other things were tried, Different maps with more strategic objectives / realistic ( real places )terrains. Different planes for different countries with a limit on how many could sign up to each. Matching fighters chronolgicaly and revolving the set. The horde problem though always there to a certain extent might then be alleviated.

Phew Ok I'll shut up now and let the comments come.