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Offline DiabloTX

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« on: January 09, 2005, 09:42:52 PM »
With the outstanding job he did with TLOTR (Tolkien Nazi's excluded) and the success of the movies do you think there's chance he could make The Silmarillion into a series of movies?  I know the book is far too indepth in detail for it all to be covered in film but do you think Peter could pull it off?
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2005, 11:34:51 PM »
There is no way he could make that into a series of movies. Mind you, he could pick a tale or two for individual telling but there are like thirty stories in that book that could lead to movies. I also doubt he would want to do another Tolkien flick.

Look at Lucas. He said he would make the first three episodes after he finished the first series, and someone held him to it. While Episode One was good, Episode Two looked like he just wanted to get it over with and the buzz is that Episode Three will be more of an obligation than an adventure movie. I look for Jackson to do something totally different over the next few years.

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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 12:23:41 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 12:51:30 AM »
Tolkien nazis..lol
Have you read the Silmarilion?

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 12:54:01 AM »
I'd rather see "The Hobbit" next.

Great story and it can be done in one movie. One very long movie, but one movie.

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 01:49:10 AM »
The Hobbit would def. be a more logical choice for a next movie, I agree.  But I am more interested in the history of Middle Earth at this point.

No, I haven't read any of Tolkien's books.  I have made at least a half dozen attempts at reading TLOTR but I can't get into it.  Fantasy and Sci Fi are two genres that I really don't like to read.  I have read some books from those genres (2001 series, Mote In God's Eye, Dragonlance, etc...) but for the most part I don't like the way they are written, Tolkien's prose specifically is very hard for me to read.  I have a friend who has read all of Tolkiens work many times and over the last 20 years or so he as told me of the great stories in them, especially in The Silmarillion.  The story of Melkor (sp?) is one that he was fond of telling me about.  

I use "Tolkien Nazi's" only as a term to describe those who can only focus on the movie's deviation from the books to the point that they can not enjoy the effort Jackson and his crew put into making the movies which if you watch the extras in the DVD's will make you appreciate the movies that much more.  At least they make me appreciate them more.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 01:59:37 AM »
The Silmarillion is a terrible tease.  Great hints of fantastic stories.
I wish Tolkein still lived so he could flesh them out.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2005, 05:33:18 AM »
Peter Jackson ****ed LOTR up majorly.  I'm not a tolkien nazi either.  I just recognize that he completely messed the whole story and point of it up.



It's like he remakes the movie "Topgun."  But he's going to cut out all the flying scenes.


The first one was decent.  The Second one great.  The Third one was an abomination.  Even the extended edition.  I actually demanded my money back from the movie theater.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2005, 05:51:14 AM »
I'm a Tolkien ÜberNazi and loved the films. I want a Hobbit film and a Silmarillion TV series (In Band of Brothers quality please).
Sure that would beat that silly big ape remake he's doing now.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2005, 05:58:04 AM »
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I'm a Tolkien ÜberNazi and loved the films. I want a Hobbit film and a Silmarillion TV series (In Band of Brothers quality please).
Sure that would beat that silly big ape remake he's doing now.


Let him make that ape movie.  As soon as he get's it done maybe that will make him want to get back to TLOTR.  I think you have a good idea though doing a tv series like BOB or From The Earth To The Moon.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2005, 06:05:25 AM »
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Peter Jackson ****ed LOTR up majorly.  I'm not a tolkien nazi either.  I just recognize that he completely messed the whole story and point of it up.



It's like he remakes the movie "Topgun."  But he's going to cut out all the flying scenes.


The first one was decent.  The Second one great.  The Third one was an abomination.  Even the extended edition.  I actually demanded my money back from the movie theater.


Well, you are def. entitled to your opinions of the movies but it certainly sounds like you'd qualify as a TN.  I understand your point of view, that friend of mine didn't much care for any of the movies.  And in my humble opinion I think that's a shame.  I hate to say but it is a reason why I am glad I couldn't finish the books.  I have another friend who loved the books except for The Fellowship.  But you really can't satisfy everyone no matter how hard you work to not do that.  And remember, all 3 movies were written by 3 people collaborating on the story so if you think its fluffied up, blame all them not just Jackson.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2005, 06:21:32 AM »
Doesn't excuse the crappiness.

My top gun analogy still stands.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 10:05:33 AM »
Peter Jackson is a ****ing butcher.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2005, 10:16:45 AM »
Meh... If JRRT himself was still among us you wouldn't even recognize LoTR by now, he loved rewriting his stories, merging characters, adjusting them or even wholesale turning them from good to evil or viceversa.

So in the movies we had lots of changes, I found some were great, some understandable, a few questionable, and one or two downright wrong.

So, ok, no Scourging or Bombadil or Glorfindel... but hey, all the rest was there, gorgeously rendered and the story got across.

What do you want him to do? a 6 hours movie that gives someone a tourist-class-syndrome-coronary and gets him sued?
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2005, 10:27:42 AM »
*shrug* the lotr movies were good, matched what i remember from the books (last time i read them was when i was 12) pretty closely (i cant comment on what happened to merry and pippin, i always skipped over that part because it was boring), some of the stuff didnt look the way i envisioned it (the hobbits seemed a heck of a lot wussier that i would have thought), but it was still pretty good.

the hobbit would definatly be good, as long as he doesnt forget that it IS intended to be a  childrens story.