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Offline Glas

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2005, 05:07:32 PM »
Well, there was a whole part in the Appendices to the book that told the story of Arwen and Aragorn.  Looks like Tolkien thought that bit was only good enough for his extended version ;)
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2005, 05:19:15 PM »
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Apparently you and I read 2 different books.  One of those swords did not kill the witch king.  Those swords were ancient agreed.. powerful?  How?


The sword with which Merry stabs the Witch King in the leg was forged in his (the Witch King's) ancient kingdom. This provides some form of power to the blade... look it up.
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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2005, 05:33:38 PM »
Yes,, thus my reference to ancient.... but it does not kill the witchking, it merely stabs him in the back of the knee.  It wasn't the virtue of the sword's history that enabled the sword to wound the witch king, it was the fact that it wasn't wielded by a man.  Thus Eowyn was able to slay the witchking by her hand, w/ a sword of no specially noted lineage.
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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2005, 07:48:46 PM »
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Umm does this actually make sense to you?

Why was she a recurring figure?  She wasn't a recurring  figure in the book.  I loved the films but Jackson needlessly expanded Arwen's role, IMHO..  This changed Aragorn's motivations entirely...Like he was accepting the mantle of the King of Gondor to, partially at least, save Arwen from death.
This also led to the very hokey presentation of Anduril before Aragorn traveled the paths of the dead.  It didn't bother me a whole heck of a lot, just a completely needless departure form the book, IMHO.  Like having elves at Helm's deep.


sigh...film(s)... better now?

By boosting her Role Arwen was used as a convient link to all 3 films - and could easier add to Aragorns character without a bulky backstory for those only familar with the films.
Also by using Arwen, Jackson for example was able to circumvent using characters like Glorfindel who would be introduced then almost immediately discarded at Rivendale few scenes later (without the need of further exposition) when the story needed to be pushed forward at the council of Elrond to maintain the flow of the film.

 Tronsky
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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2005, 08:01:25 PM »
I was upset that they took out the Arwen/Galadriel sex scene.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2005, 08:04:21 PM by Thrawn »
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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2005, 08:06:49 PM »
"So passed the sword of the Barrow Downs, work of the Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it so long ago in the North Kingdom when the Dunedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had weilded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will."

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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2005, 08:07:01 PM »
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By boosting her Role Arwen was used as a convient link to all 3 films - and could easier add to Aragorns character without a bulky backstory for those only familar with the films.



The films didn't need another link.  Look, you can spew all the irrelevent rhteoric you want... you're still wrong.
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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2005, 08:12:19 PM »
Look up.

I accept your surrender.
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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2005, 08:38:31 PM »
...puts on Wizard Hat

*LIGHTNING BOLT*

*LIGHTNING BOLT*


...now STFU I win!
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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2005, 08:47:49 PM »
NEEERRRRDDDSSSS!!!!!  


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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2005, 09:28:26 PM »
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"No, I haven't read any of Tolkien's books. "

Then you should start threads that you can accutally contribute too cause you sure cant contribute to this one. If you like the chicks version of the LOTR better then the original then you should ask yourself why.


:rolleyes:

The subject of this thread is not whether or not I can contribute to it, if you had bothered to re-read the first post.  I am merely asking for argument pro or con, I'll go ahead and go out on a limb here and put you down as a con, to see if Peter Jackson could pull off putting The Silmarillion to film.  Whether or not I have read it has no impact on Peter Jackson's ability to make it into a movie.  It's a very simple question with an answer that is boolean, either yay nor nay.
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2005, 10:30:54 PM »
Yup, thanks MT.


Had Eowyn stabbed the witchking before the blade stabbed his knee, nothing would have happened.  It was the blade that killed the Witch King.
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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2005, 10:35:33 PM »
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With the outstanding job he did with TLOTR (Tolkien Nazi's excluded) and the success of the movies do you think there's chance he could make The Silmarillion into a series of movies?  I know the book is far too indepth in detail for it all to be covered in film but do you think Peter could pull it off?


He could cut out all the crap and slim the movie down to only five or six hours. ;)

Actually, I don't think there is a director that could do it. Hell... I don't think there's a writer that could take the Silmarillion and come up with even a screen play.
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2005, 01:11:20 AM »
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Had Eowyn stabbed the witchking before the blade stabbed his knee, nothing would have happened. It was the blade that killed the Witch King.



This is how you interpret it?  GAY,,, and wrong.
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2005, 01:24:11 AM »
Stay tuned for the next exciting post in . . . dun dun DUUUNNN

BATTLE OF THE BBS DORKS!

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