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John Kerry’s Economic miracle.
« on: January 11, 2005, 10:59:45 AM »
would be the head line had he won.


Best Jobs Numbers Since 1999, But CBS
and NBC Stress Negative

     Emphasizing the negative. The unemployment numbers released on Friday exhibited a gain of 157,000 jobs in December for a total of 2.2 million jobs during the year, the best showing since 1999. ABC's World News Tonight didn't mention the good news while CBS and NBC stressed the negative. CBS Evening News anchor John Roberts noted that the 2.2 million new jobs were "about 400,000 short of what the White House predicted a year ago" and, on the NBC Nightly News, anchor Brian Williams pointed out how "Wall Street wasn't impressed. The Dow was down almost 19 points. NASDAQ was down as well."

     Neither network reported how the much-predicted job losses during the Bush years have now been nearly eliminated. Washington Post reporters Nell Henderson and Amy Joyce noted in their January 8 story:
     "At the recent low-point for the job count, in August 2003, the nation had 2.7 million fewer jobs than on the eve of the recession. By last month, that deficit had been shaved to 122,000. That gap could be fully erased by the end of this month, according to many forecasts, thwarting Democrats' prediction during the presidential campaign that Bush would be the first U.S. President since Herbert Hoover to preside over a net national job loss in one term." For the article in full: http://www.washingtonpost.com

     Indeed, that was the Democratic line during the campaign, a line some in the media eagerly picked up. On the October 8 CBS Evening News, for instance, Dan Rather intoned:
     "While the economy has created nearly two million jobs in the past year, President Bush still goes into the election with 821,000 fewer jobs in the nation than when he took office. It's the first net job loss on a President's watch since Herbert Hoover during the Great Depression of the 1930s. CBS's Jim Axelrod reports Senator Kerry is ready to play that up in tonight's town meeting face-off."

     After 47 months of unemployment data, Bush is just 122,000 jobs short now of breaking even with the report for January due in early February. And as Saturday's New York Times story noted, that "job creation grew at a stronger pace than originally estimated in October and November; the Labor Department, with further information from companies, increased its estimate for those two months by 34,000 jobs."

     The short item read by John Roberts on the January 7 CBS Evening News: "About the U.S. economy now, President Bush applauded today's jobs report. It shows unemployment holding steady last month at 5.4 percent as the economy created 157,000 jobs. For all of 2004, it's 2.2 million new jobs, the best showing in five years. It's about 400,000 short of what the White House predicted a year ago, though."

     On the NBC Nightly News, Brian Williams announced: "And there is news on the American economy tonight, specifically the jobs report for the month of December. Employers added 157,000 workers to their payrolls last month. The unemployment rate, by the way, held steady at 5.4 percent. December's payroll additions bring the total number of jobs added for the year now to 2.2 million. That's the best showing in five years. President Bush called all this a very positive set of numbers, but Wall Street wasn't impressed. The Dow was down almost 19 points. NASDAQ was down as well. And for this first week of the new year, stocks lost ground overall. The Dow was off 179 points. NASDAQ was down almost 87. That's about four percent."
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 01:58:48 PM »
Great post.  The amazing thing is that Kerry, without even holding office, would be given (and taking) credit for this economic data.


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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 02:01:57 PM »
Kerry`s only economic miracle to date was to better himself. That was talking the ketchup queen into marrying him.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 02:11:00 PM »
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Kerry`s only economic miracle to date was to better himself. That was talking the ketchup queen into marrying him.


I wouldn't mind a sugar momma.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 02:18:42 PM »
Yawn!:p

Offline Sandman

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 02:20:25 PM »
The election is over. Bush got the job.


...why are the conservatives still hunting for a "win"?
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 03:05:26 PM »
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The election is over. Bush got the job.


...why are the conservatives still hunting for a "win"?

I believe the term is "Jonesing".
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 03:11:46 PM »
I think JBA's post is interesting. The media does seem to try to paint the US economy in a bad light, almost no matter what.

It's not so much that conservatives are trying to keep the anti liberal fires stoked as much as it is amazment at the media.

I think JBA is correct.....if Kerry was President, the media would probably be taking the exact same economic data and be cheering it as the great recovery from 911 and the Bush economy.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 03:14:19 PM »
Just like the conservatives blaming everything on Clinton? You can't have it both ways.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2005, 03:15:47 PM »
blaming what on Clinton?

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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2005, 03:23:59 PM »
If you take all the jobs that were lost early in Bush's first term, he's just making up that lost ground, but still behind from the end of Clinton's last term.
     It's just like saying "hey, I just won $500 playing poker", but forget to mention that it took you $499 in losses to win it back, for a $1 profit.

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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2005, 03:28:36 PM »
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If you take all the jobs that were lost early in Bush's first term, he's just making up that lost ground, but still behind from the end of Clinton's last term.
     It's just like saying "hey, I just won $500 playing poker", but forget to mention that it took you $499 in losses to win it back, for a $1 profit.

:rolleyes:


Yeah, Bush is the reason for the job loss. The moment he took office, he had such an impact that 2 million plus jobs were lost....:rolleyes:

Bush, during his campaign, was warning of the coming recession.......and was RIDICULED by the media. Remember that? Bush told it like it was....and it was true. The economy was ALREADY in a resession when Bush took office.

Then 911.....I'm sure 911 had nothing to do with the economy or job loss.

Bush has brought America back from the recession he inherited.

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2005, 03:30:50 PM »
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If you take all the jobs that were lost early in Bush's first term, he's just making up that lost ground, but still behind from the end of Clinton's last term.
     It's just like saying "hey, I just won $500 playing poker", but forget to mention that it took you $499 in losses to win it back, for a $1 profit.

:rolleyes:


Good point! In the first eight months of his prsidency before 911  Bush passed so many bad laws and anti business regulations that all the jobs simply vanished mainly because of him...

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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2005, 03:32:18 PM »
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blaming what on Clinton?

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Yeah, Bush is the reason for the job loss. The moment he took office, he had such an impact that 2 million plus jobs were lost....:rolleyes:

Bush, during his campaign, was warning of the coming recession.......and was RIDICULED by the media. Remember that? Bush told it like it was....and it was true. The economy was ALREADY in a resession when Bush took office.

Then 911.....I'm sure 911 had nothing to do with the economy or job loss.

Bush has brought America back from the recession he inherited.
You answered your own question.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2005, 03:34:55 PM »
Nowhere in that post does he imply clinton caused the recession.  The recsssion started because of the tech bust,  The tech boom made the 1990s economy and the bust brought the recession...