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Offline StarOfAfrica2

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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2005, 12:40:09 PM »
Go ahead and do it.  A SpitV with quad cannons would have an eny of like what, 1?  lol

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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2005, 01:41:26 PM »
if the spitfire V was a U.S. plane, it would not only be able to have the 4 20mm as an option... but it could carry 10 rockets and 2k bombs too ;)
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2005, 01:54:16 PM »
I would much prefer a Spit LF IX.;) :)

I tested the spit V and IX last nite as i was having trouble running them down.

On the deck-
Spit V 316 mph
Spit IX 319 mph

5k-
Spit V 336
Spit IX 340

No wonder i was having problems, it seems the spit V has no trouble staying with a spit IX.  I think it's safe to say the spit V is equally as fast as the spit IX below 5k.  i'll see how they compare at 10k later.  

Urchin i'm pretty sure the V has better acceleration than the IX.  It has the same power and is 800 pounds lighter.  
The spit IX has more disadvantages than advantages for fighting in the MA against the V.
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2005, 02:23:02 PM »
Well ok here's what i got for 10k-
Spit IX 362 mph
Spit V 355 mph

Seems the spit IX is starting to gain a distinct speed advantage, though it is only 7mph at this point.


Please model a LF IX HT, pretty please. :)
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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2005, 05:44:33 PM »
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Originally posted by thrila
Well ok here's what i got for 10k-


Please model a LF IX HT, pretty please. :)


With the C wing and 4x20 mm cannons

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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2005, 06:25:46 AM »
I've been calling for certain loadouts to be perked for a while now.

It would bring in all those variants on planes.


Especially the Ju87 with those big guns.
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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2005, 01:36:13 PM »
Late to the party but think we should clear up a few things.

First is that the 4 cannon Spit Vc was not common.  The only actual combat use I can find is 2 SAAF in the ground attack role in 44-45.  These were not clipped wing aircraft and had the Vokes filter under the nose.  They also carried a 500 pounder on the centerline.  They were NOT dogfighters and with the Vokes filter and extra weight would have been at a real disadvantage.

There are lots of photos of 4 cannon Spit Vc launching off Wasp to reinforce Malta. They had two of the cannon removed when they got there to save weight and help performance.

Clipped wings on the Spit started with the experimental Spit III that had the first internal armored glass windscreen and retractable tail wheel.

The Spit V in all it's forms, Va, Vb and Vc  was capable of having the wings clipped and many were when they started using the derated Merlin 45s and came up with the LFv.  Clipping the wings was often done in the field and basically involved removing curved tip and fitting a piece of wood on the end and sanding it to fit.

The Spit XII had clipped wings in production and follow on Spit VIII, IX, XVI XIV etc all were flown with clipped wings.

The Spit V should be able to carry a 30, 45 or 90 gallon slipper tank as that was regular practice in squadron service.

All that being said, I wouldn't advocate for a 4 cannon Spit.  A Spit LFIXe or XVIe would be a much better addition.

image is of 4 cannon 2 Squadron SAAF Spits over the Adriatic in 44-45

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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2005, 12:48:06 AM »
I think Thrilla has hit the nail on the head -
The difference between the 5 and the 9 speed wise is almost negligable at low alts.
This is a problem with the Spit 9 we have. If I remember from a previous thread its an HF model.
Or at least its a mish mash of different variants not being truly representative of any one of them.
Maybe a change in engine (not sure which we have) to a more accurate version would help. After all wasn't the 9 basically 5 with a bigger engine as a stop gap until the 8 was ready?
If so how come our 9 and 5 have the same power as Thrilla stated?
Different note - Dan that Spit 7 that I did ("Spirit of Kent") made it in today. Remember the Grey one with the narrow invasion stripes, and you were very helpfull in showing that by DDay the pointy tips had been removed.
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