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« on: January 15, 2005, 11:24:09 AM »
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050115/D87KJM4O0.html

 
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Forty-six members of the Palestinian election commission, including top managers, resigned Saturday, saying they were pressured by Mahmoud Abbas' campaign and intelligence officials to abruptly change voting procedures during the Jan. 9 presidential poll.

Two senior members of the commission, Ammar Dwaik and Baha al-Bakri, resigned early Saturday, and officials later said 44 more members resigned. Six top election officials were among those who resigned.



I heard Jimmy Carter on the radio after the election saying that the Palestinians did an excelent job on the elections and that they were fair......as fair as can be with Israel involved. What a joker Carter is....

Carter claimed that he had to call the Palestinian election officials and "iron out" a few minor details, but otherwise everything went well........as well as can be expected under Isreali occupation.

Carter goes around the world and "monitors" elections and actually thinks he's someone that everyone respects and that everone will play fair if his dumb arse is their to inspect things.

Carter is so clueless it isn't even funny. I used to laugh when I heard about all the arse backward elections and results he has put his stamp oif approval on. Now I just wonder if he's even sane.

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During the presidential election, polls were to have stayed open for 12 hours until 7 p.m. However, several hours after polls opened, turnout was light, a cause of concern for Abbas, who was the front-runner but needed a decisive victory to win a mandate for peace talks with Israel.

"We were visited by senior officials from Abu Mazen's campaign, and we were pressured to change procedures on election day," al-Bakri said. Abbas is widely known as Abu Mazen.

During the meeting, shots were fired at the panel's headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah. Electoral officials said they recognized at least one gunman as a member of Palestinian intelligence services.

The commission eventually extended voting by two hours and allowed voters to cast their ballots in any location, not just their hometowns.

The change enabled thousands of security force members, most of them Abbas supporters, to cast ballots near their posts rather than travel back to their hometowns, some of them far away.

Dwaik and al-Bakri said Saturday those decisions were made under pressure from Abbas' campaign, Fatah and the intelligence service.

"I was personally threatened and pressured," Dwaik said. "I am therefore announcing my resignation publicly, so that everyone knows that in the upcoming legislative election, this could happen again."

Al-Bakri said voting hours are extended only when there are long lines at the polling stations.

"This was not the case on election day," he said. "These (changes in) procedures had two goals: first to increase the turnout and second to increase the percentage of Fatah voters."

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2005, 11:33:00 AM »
You sound surprised Nuke.  Like you didn't see this coming...
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2005, 11:35:55 AM »
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You sound surprised Nuke.  Like you didn't see this coming...


im not sure i heard about "your" peace prize nuke.  what year was that again?
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2005, 11:36:44 AM »
Not surprised, just amazed with Carter's ability to remain an absolute, clueless fool.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2005, 11:37:58 AM »
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im not sure i heard about "your" peace prize nuke.  what year was that again?


please don't post in this thread a million times with a bunch of your mindless drivel. I'm being serious for once...please do not post here.

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2005, 11:39:41 AM »
Carter is an ex-president who deserves our admiration for his efforts on behalf of the poor and oppressed.

However, I've always felt that he was incredibly naive about human and political nature.

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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2005, 11:53:57 AM »
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Carter is an ex-president who deserves our admiration for his efforts on behalf of the poor and oppressed.

However, I've always felt that he was incredibly naive about human and political nature.


post.

tell you what.  you dont EVER post in mine and i'll think about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2005, 11:59:47 AM »
Nuke, you seem to have left a couple of paragraphs out of your quote.

In particular:

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The resignations raised questions about the Jan. 9 vote that gave Abbas an overwhelming victory, though the officials who quit said the alleged irregularities did not fundamentally affect the final vote tally.


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"These pressures and threats lessoned the degree of the integrity of the election, even though overall it was free and fair," said Dwaik, the deputy chairman of the commission.


So even the man who resigned said of the election "overall, it was free and fair"

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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2005, 12:01:37 PM »
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Nuke, you seem to have left a couple of paragraphs out of your quote.

In particular:



and



So even the man who resigned said of the election "overall, it was free and fair"


nice.  :aok
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2005, 02:52:06 AM »
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Nuke, you seem to have left a couple of paragraphs out of your quote.

In particular:



and



So even the man who resigned said of the election "overall, it was free and fair"


Of course, just like in the Ukraine recently. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2005, 03:00:29 AM »
Carter is a good statesman.
Remember the work he did getting Egypt and Israel together ?

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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2005, 03:11:16 AM »
Yet another case of "Peanuts Envy".

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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2005, 09:52:28 AM »
You mean the resigning officials want to say something good about the person who now has control over several terrorist organizations?

Who would have thought it?
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2005, 10:03:31 AM »
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im not sure i heard about "your" peace prize nuke.  what year was that again?


Nuke's Peace Prize is right along there with Gandhi's.

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2005, 01:17:02 PM »
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Carter is a good statesman.
Remember the work he did getting Egypt and Israel together ?


Or how about this one. Carter did an excellent job getting North Korea to promise not to create a nuclear weapons program in exchange for millions of dollars in fuel oil.