Randy Moss

[Airhead]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK


Though I wouldnt mind trading him for Warren Sapp.

WHAT??? Dude, Warren Sapp is OLD, SLOW and had a BAD year. COD but I HATE people who talk like they know football!!:mad:

That's it Dreadiok- I'm blowing off work, going to the airport and I'm catching the first flight back to New Joisey to beat you up!!:mad:

You deserve it just for being the worst amatuer GM EVAR!!!:mad:

BTW, Raiders lost their mistique? Barrett Robbins was shot by police last night...looks like same ol' Raiders to me. Of course, because he's white all you O'Club Bling Bling watchers will ignore that fact and, instead, become morally offended over a Randy Moss endzone gesture....

Amazing how all you right wingers, so willing to decry political correctness, get your panties in a bunch over black atheletes. Perhaps if we casterated pro atheletes you'd feel less offended...

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Airhead
WHAT??? Dude, Warren Sapp is OLD, SLOW and had a BAD year. COD but I HATE people who talk like they know football!!:mad:

That's it Dreadiok- I'm blowing off work, going to the airport and I'm catching the first flight back to New Joisey to beat you up!!:mad:

You deserve it just for being the worst amatuer GM EVAR!!!:mad:

BTW, Raiders lost their mistique? Barrett Robbins was shot by police last night...looks like same ol' Raiders to me. Of course, because he's white all you O'Club Bling Bling watchers will ignore that fact and, instead, become morally offended over a Randy Moss endzone gesture....

Amazing how all you right wingers, so willing to decry political correctness, get your panties in a bunch over black atheletes. Perhaps if we casterated pro atheletes you'd feel less offended...

Yes but he is not a team divider like moss is

C'mon the Raiders aint the same as they used to be when they  had maniac players like Alzado and John Matuszak.
I loved those Raider teams. they were Barbarians.
Now way can those teams be put in even the same luage as todays Raiders. They had that mistique. That...thing. Its just not there like it used to be.
 Cant just go by criminal activity as criminal activity among pro athletes is about as common now as weeds in a poorly maintained lawn
   Moss Im not sure would fit in well with those teams either. Not because he isnt a good player. He is.
But he's all about himself.
Those players did antics but they were team players.
with Moss its all about moss

LOL Im not a right Winger. Im not a left winger either.
And Moss didnt offend me.
  He's just acting like an A-hole and he is all about himself and not the team.

The antics he pulls effects his team if they want to admit it or not.
and the Team. overall plays more like a team on Both sides of the ball when he isnt there

[Mini D]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Culpepper is fine. Its the Defence that sucks

Like the saying goes
"Offence wins games, Defence Wins Championships"

You're suggesting that philly has a defense?  What philly team have you been watching this year?

It's hard for a defense to keep a team from scoring when an offense is more than willing to hand the ball over.

Culpepper has a rich tradition of bad decisions in important games.  The only reason he's viewed as an allstar is because he has Randy Moss lining up.  Take that away and he's a quarterback that's intercepted 5-10 more times a year and has to scramble more than fran tarkington.

[TweetyBird]

>>C'mon the Raiders aint the same as they used to be when they had maniac players like Alzado and John Matuszak.
<<

Yea, they cracked down on steroid use. That monkey blood will make you nuts.

[EagleEyes]

Moss is not that bad.  Id like to see if any of you could make some of the catches he makes.  I know i cant.  Tice even said that there was miss communication on everyones part on the fake field goal attempt.  If you try pinning that on Moss you need a reality check.  What really  gets me by the short hairs is how everyone made a big deal about Moss "mooning" the packers fans.  What no one talks about is how when the Vikes were at Lambo earlier in the season, after the game, the packer fans were throwing beer and mooning the vikings players.  Im not saying that was right for what he did, but payback is a b*tch!  Wait till next season, it should be good all around.

[rpm]

Beer and mooning? Anyone remember the Philly fans throwing battery cored snowballs at Veteran's Stadium?

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Mini D
You're suggesting that philly has a defense?  What philly team have you been watching this year?

It's hard for a defense to keep a team from scoring when an offense is more than willing to hand the ball over.

Culpepper has a rich tradition of bad decisions in important games.  The only reason he's viewed as an allstar is because he has Randy Moss lining up.  Take that away and he's a quarterback that's intercepted 5-10 more times a year and has to scramble more than fran tarkington.

Philly has a much better defence then its given credit for
And one of the best at the most important stat. Points allowed. in Fact only the Steelers give up less points and only New England matches it.

Interestingly enough none of the 5 top ranked teams in Total defence even made it to the playoffs.

As for the Vikings. While the offence didnt always play outstanding. it was the defence that consistantly let them down. Especially on 3rd down.
The offence in the majority of the games played well enough to win.

As for Culpeper and moss

In the 5 games since the Moss injury Till he came back against the Jags and not including the second half of the NO Game.
Culpeper
Completed 113 of 166 pass attempts
for 1,003 yards
57 1st downs
9 TDs
3 INTs

Thats not too shabby for any QB

In the Philly game Both sides misfired but again the Defence and again let them down Allowing 23 first downs. 4 by penalty

Neither of Culpepers interceptions lead to Philly scores of any kind.

Nothing wrong with scrambling. I'd rather have a QB that can scramble then a pure pocket passer.
I view a QB that can scramble as more of an asset then someone who can only stay in the pocket.

[Shuckins]

Just an impression...I may be wrong...but cutting salaries by 75% might eliminate the punks who don't really love the game and are only in it for the money...or to act like punks on camera.

[myelo]

Originally posted by rpm
Dallas had the opportunity to draft Moss and passed. What does that tell you?

That the Cowboys' front office is run by idiots.

But we already knew that.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Just an impression...I may be wrong...but cutting salaries by 75% might eliminate the punks who don't really love the game and are only in it for the money...or to act like punks on camera.

I would agree. Might also go a long way to them easing up on some of these rules and let the players actualy play the game.

[Steve]

What no one talks about is how when the Vikes were at Lambo earlier in the season, after the game, the packer fans were throwing beer and mooning the vikings players.

Keep saying it... some people will believe you.. I'm sure of it.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Steve
Keep saying it... some people will believe you.. I'm sure of it.

Are you saying he's lying?

[Steve]

Yes. Let me make it plain:  He's lying.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Philly has a much better defence then its given credit for
And one of the best at the most important stat. Points allowed. in Fact only the Steelers give up less points and only New England matches it.

They are properly given credit.  The number you seemed to be concerned with has just as much dependance on the fact that 6 of their games were division games with 3 teams that are all in the bottom 10 of the NFL in scoring.  Like I said... you must be WATCHING a different defense than me.

As for the Vikings. While the offence didnt always play outstanding. it was the defence that consistantly let them down. Especially on 3rd down.
The offence in the majority of the games played well enough to win.

Both let the team down.  The Minesota defense did not keep the Minesota offense out of the endzone... the offense did.  To dismiss it as anything other than shoddy play by the offense is simply odd.

As for Culpeper and moss

In the 5 games since the Moss injury Till he came back against the Jags and not including the second half of the NO Game.
Culpeper
Completed 113 of 166 pass attempts for 1,003 yards
57 1st downs
9 TDs
3 INTs

Thats not too shabby for any QB

Take the game stats individually on that one.  If I do recall, most of that came in one game against one of the worst defenses in the league (Greenbay).  He didn't get more than 250 yards in any of the other games... less than 200 in 2 of them.  4 games with 5 TDs and 3 INTS.

Moss was missed.

In the Philly game Both sides misfired but again the Defence and again let them down Allowing 23 first downs. 4 by penalty

Neither of Culpepers interceptions lead to Philly scores of any kind.

Hehehe... you realize that's because of the defense... not the offense?  You're saying culpepper didn't hurt the team because the d happened to pick up the slop those two times, then blame the D for the rest of the game and ignore that the O wasn't able to help out at all.  Gotcha.

Nothing wrong with scrambling. I'd rather have a QB that can scramble then a pure pocket passer.
I view a QB that can scramble as more of an asset then someone who can only stay in the pocket.

Can scramble vs has to scramble.  The scramble is a symptom of a few things, mostly the front line being innefective, but also quarterback fixation on primary receivers.  This is something Culpepper suffers from in the extreme.

Take someone like Joe Montana... he was as much of a pocket passer as you'll see.  He excelled at spotting the open receiver even if it was his 3rd option and doing it in less than 3 seconds.  Good field decisions... great quarterback.

[rpm]

Read it and weep. Or better yet, apologize.
source

Randy Moss likely will draw a fine from the NFL, but Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy had to chuckle nonetheless when he saw the Minnesota Vikings' wide receiver pretend to moon the fans at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

Dungy knew Moss' gesture -- acting as if he was dropping his pants and mooning the end-zone crowd after catching a 34-yard touchdown pass in the fourth quarter of the Vikings' 31-17 victory -- was tantamount to payback.

"I thought it was kind of humorous," Dungy said Monday afternoon. "Anybody that's played in the NFC Central knows what that's all about.

"Green Bay has a reputation with their fans being great, and they really are. But one of their traditions is when they beat you, they stand around the parking lot, all around the fence, and they moon the bus when you leave."

It's a cheeky scene Dungy has been exposed to many times during a coaching career that has included stints with Packers rivals Tampa Bay and Minnesota.

"I've seen that seven times having lost seven times in a row up there, and I'm sure Randy's seen it a lot," he said. "So that was just a nice here-you-go back to the fans who moon the buses.