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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2005, 07:57:30 PM »
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al-Zarqawi of Iraq



He is really anoying, hope you catch him. No one knows where he will turn up next time, this "one-leged Phantom".

Next time you are trying to execute him, please donīt use cruise missiles, as the 2 first failed. Try putting a stake through his heart and put his body in christianed soil.

Have anyone called Van Helsing?

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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2005, 08:00:02 PM »
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OH BS......put the crack pipe down.  Their doctrine is based on religious hatred.  It has nothing to do with politics.  They want to destroy israel and anyone who supports it.


The Catholic Irish want the Protestant/Anglican English out of land that formerly belonged to Ireland.

The Mulsim Palestinians want the Jewish Israelis out of land that formerly belonged to Palestine.




Gunslinger is right!  This is so clear cut!

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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2005, 08:12:45 PM »
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The IRA is doing it for political reasons and not religious which is what the point of this thread is. Their targets are politicians, police, and non-supporters of their cause, not just someone who is of a different religion.


Missing from Vorticon's list are examples like:

The Tullyvallen Orange Hall Massacre, 1975. 2 IRA men walked into an Orange Order (a protestant group) hall and shot dead 5 people.

The Kingsmill massacre. Ten protesant workmen were in a minibus on their way home from work in a textile factory. The IRA had set up a roadblock on the country road they were on, and forced the minibus to stop. The Catholic driver was told to run away, the ten workmen were lined up at the side of the road and shot dead.

The Darkley hall massacre. INLA gunmen walked into a Pentecostal church service on a Sunday and shot dead 3 church elders.

There are scores more, mostly involving just 1 or 2 killings.

Also, there's the Claudy massacre. Whilst not strictly a sectarian attack, (it was a series of bombing of a small mixed Catholic/Protestant town), it's  relevant because the IRA gang that carried it out was led by Father Jim Chesney, the (Catholic) priest of a neigbouring parish. (9 people were killed in the Claudy bombings, including 3 children, one of them an 8 year old girl)


The Republican terrorists sought a united Ireland. Because the majority of Northern Ireland is Protestant, and wants to remain part of the UK, they sought to drive out Protestants by killing random members of the community. (The Loyalist terrorists did the same, of course)

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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2005, 08:31:34 PM »
Is IRA a terrorist group? And who have funded them with money during the years?

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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2005, 09:35:02 PM »
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Originally posted by hawker238
The Catholic Irish want the Protestant/Anglican English out of land that formerly belonged to Ireland.

The Mulsim Palestinians want the Jewish Israelis out of land that formerly belonged to Palestine.




Gunslinger is right!  This is so clear cut!


Are they killing in the name of christ?  If so is this what their preachers and what not are telling them to do?  If you answer yes to either of these questions then these are not christians!

christianity is not about killing and murder its about following the teachings of christ who was a pascifist!  This is so clear cut!

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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2005, 09:55:22 PM »
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Are they killing in the name of christ?  If so is this what their preachers and what not are telling them to do?  If you answer yes to either of these questions then these are not christians!

christianity is not about killing and murder its about following the teachings of christ who was a pascifist!  This is so clear cut!



Gunslinger, I hate to bring this news to you. After reading all your posts :You dont seem to be pacifistic .....

Are you sure you have accepted Christ and his teaching?

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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2005, 09:57:30 PM »
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Gunslinger, I hate to bring this news to you. After reading all your posts :You dont seem to be pacifistic .....

Are you sure you have accepted Christ and his teaching?


Christ never said he was a pacifist.

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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2005, 10:05:24 PM »
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Christ never said he was a pacifist.



thats true, he actully said the opposite......But some guys only read the "good" parts of the bible and some are just assuming a whole lot more.......

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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2005, 10:20:01 PM »
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Are they killing in the name of christ?  If so is this what their preachers and what not are telling them to do?  If you answer yes to either of these questions then these are not christians!

christianity is not about killing and murder its about following the teachings of christ who was a pascifist!  This is so clear cut!


So what does that make you, Gun?


Edit: I'm probably going to bed before I get a reply, so here's what you are: a realist.  You're a christian when it suits you, you disobey christian morals when it suits you.  This is not bad, this is how most of the world is.

The Muslims are (in a sense) realists as well.  I'm pretty sure they're not down there living, breathing, eating, and sleeping based on religion.  They have political agendas they want to push as well.  Whether gain it gets for them, they're in it for more than just the blind religious hatred.
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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2005, 10:31:09 PM »
I'm not muslim that's for sure.  That said I beleive that Jesus christ is the king of kings, the son of god.  He will come again some day to judge the living and the dead.

but I don't see how this has any bearing on the discussion.  The aboved mentioned IRA acts did not perform these in the name of christ vrs. alah so they are irrelevent.  Just like asking me about my faith.

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thats true, he actully said the opposite......But some guys only read the "good" parts of the bible and some are just assuming a whole lot more.......


Where are you getting your information from?  Do you even know the bible?  Christ was a pascifist I have no doubt in my mind.  "turn the other cheeck".  He had every right to be pissed off at his fellow men and yet he layed his down to save ours.  Put up or shut up.

Patron I challenge you to show me in bible anywere were Jesus advocated violence for ANYTHING!  Otherwise stop posting.  All you do here is troll.  You don't add anything to any discussion.  In addition I'm a pretty fair minded guy.  I've never claimed to be a pascifist.  
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Christ never said he was a pacifist.


I didn't say "christ said he was a pascifist"  I said christ WAS a pascifist!


again for those that have a reading impediment

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Are they killing in the name of christ? If so, is this what their preachers and what not are telling them to do?  
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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2005, 11:05:40 PM »
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I'm not muslim that's for sure.  That said I beleive that Jesus christ is the king of kings, the son of god.  He will come again some day to judge the living and the dead.

but I don't see how this has any bearing on the discussion.  The aboved mentioned IRA acts did not perform these in the name of christ vrs. alah so they are irrelevent.  Just like asking me about my faith.

 

Patron I challenge you to show me in bible anywere were Jesus advocated violence for ANYTHING!  Otherwise stop posting.  All you do here is troll.  You don't add anything to any discussion.  In addition I'm a pretty fair minded guy.  I've never claimed to be a pascifist.  
 

I didn't say "christ said he was a pascifist"  I said christ WAS a pascifist!


again for those that have a reading impediment




As I dont have the same versin of the bible (english, james version) at hand

lukas 12:49
"I have not come to bring peace on earth, I have come to put brother against brother, child against father....."

about the same, read Matteus 10:34
"I have not come with peace, but a with sword......"

lukas 22:36-39
"But now should the one that has a bag with money, take this with and the one that has no money, sell his cover and buy a sword........"

it ends with diciples saying "here, we have 2 swords: good He answered"

Later in the text, when Jesus is captured, one of theese swords are used to cut an ear of a soldier.

Not very pacifistic words and so much for that Troll, Gunslinger.

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« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2005, 12:07:53 AM »
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As I dont have the same versin of the bible (english, james version) at hand

lukas 12:49
"I have not come to bring peace on earth, I have come to put brother against brother, child against father....."

about the same, read Matteus 10:34
"I have not come with peace, but a with sword......"

lukas 22:36-39
"But now should the one that has a bag with money, take this with and the one that has no money, sell his cover and buy a sword........"

it ends with diciples saying "here, we have 2 swords: good He answered"

Later in the text, when Jesus is captured, one of theese swords are used to cut an ear of a soldier.

Not very pacifistic words and so much for that Troll, Gunslinger.


nice try....next time read the enitire passage


jesus didnt cut the ear off but healed it.  He also stopped the fight and went willingly into his own death.


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22:48 But Jesus said to him, "Judas, would you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?"121 22:49 When122 those who were around him saw what was about to happen, they said, "Lord, should123 we use our swords?"124 22:50 Then125 one of them126 struck the high priest's slave,127 cutting off his right ear. 22:51 But Jesus said,128 "Enough of this!" And he touched the man's129 ear and healed130 him. 22:52 Then131 Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard,132 and the elders who had come out to get him, "Have you come out with swords and clubs like you would against an outlaw?133 22:53 Day after day when I was with you in the temple courts,134 you did not arrest me.135 But this is your hour,136 and that of the power137 of darkness!"


we can go tit for tat all night quoting scripture but that really isnt relevent.  NONE of this is relevent to the thread discussion.  IRA terrorists arent christian nore did they kill in the name of christ.  They are fundamentally different from islamic extremests therefore not applicable in the discussion.

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« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2005, 12:14:48 AM »
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nice try....next time read the enitire passage


jesus didnt cut the ear off but healed it.  He also stopped the fight and went willingly into his own death.



Now, .....next time read my post correct. I didnt say jesus cut the ear off, but he aproved to the guys bringing the 2 swords along.

But, redicule everything that you can not really understand or aprove......kinda knew this already, so, I am not really hurt:cool:

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« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2005, 12:24:05 AM »
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In the past? well yeah but... those were euros.. they were allways looking for a reason for a good slaughter of humanity.


We got rid of most of that eurotrash when they emigrated to Some contigent occupied by some indian non believers.


Having the bible in their hands they quickly rolled up that contigent

they had every right ofcourse because they where christian.

Not to mention the use of unbelievers who where later on brainwashed to become believers but still used them for slavery.

Damn we white christians have such a glorious history we are god.








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« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2005, 08:57:36 AM »
so the indian wars were a christian war?   We played by the indians rules... they lost we won.    The slaves were brought here by euro trash ships.

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