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Offline Andy Bush

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2002, 10:24:00 PM »
Sorry, guys!

I didn't mean to confuse the issue. If you get the chance, stop by SimHQ's Air Combat Corner and take a look at my "It's All A Matter of Perspective" and "A2A Gunnery" articles for an in-depth discussion of these concepts.
 http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/air_combat/air_combat.shtml

For now, here are a couple of pictures that might help. I think you all have got the basics pretty much right...let's just fine tune it a bit!

Here's the concept of the lift vector. Most folks visualize it as coming out of the top of the canopy...or use the rudder as a lift vector pointer. You can use the lift vector as an approximate indication of your flight path when turning.

An attacker's gun line is also in his flight path, so his lift vector is a good indication of where his bullet stream will be.

 

Next, here's an external view of the defender and attacker. The defender's lift vector is aligned with the attacker's. If the defender pulls G now, his flight path will remain in the attacker's flight path (gun line).

But if the defender rolls to move his lift vector, then pulling G will fly the defender out of the attacker's flight path (gun line).

 

If this is still not clear, let's keep the thread going and I'll try harder to explain the concepts.

Andy

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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2002, 10:32:00 PM »
aknimitz

"Shaw incognito?"

Naw...I'm a real pilot! He's just an aviator!

Just kidding!!  :D

Shaw is a Navy pilot and I'm a USAF pilot. We have similar backgrounds. His book is the best source for A2A info on the civilian market, and I strongly recommend it.

Andy

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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2002, 12:49:00 AM »
Hiyas Andy,

That certainly helps clear things up for me...and thanks for the link, I'll go do some reading.  

Ok, now that I know what a lift vector is, will this help me kill Drex??  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2002, 04:58:18 AM »
Andy, there seems to be a prob with ur pics, i cant see em.

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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2002, 08:17:01 PM »
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Andy, there seems to be a prob with ur pics, i cant see em.


Yep...I goofed up my webspace. I think it's OK now.

Andy

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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2002, 09:12:55 AM »
Andy were you not Airforce and if so is there any airforce books or info available for us all to get and read.:cool:

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« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2002, 12:34:32 PM »
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His book is the best source for A2A info on the civilian market, and I strongly recommend it.
Andy


Yeah, what indian said! Any good post WWII official reading available on the net?

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« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2002, 02:10:23 PM »
Indian and Vector

Unfortunately, Shaw's book is the only book that I know of that covers A2A in that level of detail.

There are other books available, but nothing that comes close to Shaw.

Tray Amazon or Barnes and Noble on-line for other titles.

Andy

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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2002, 05:41:32 PM »
Ok Andy take all the stuff you wrote on the SMHQ web site and make the book Your explanations were very good, more down to earth then shaws. Dont know if you saw DocDooms books but be nice to have your stuf so it can be carried around and read when time permits.