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« on: January 19, 2005, 05:32:17 PM »
Can anyone direct me to where I could find design drawings for the Spitfire?  Preferably the Mk I, but I think any of them should give me what I need.  I am especially looking for wing design info, but the rest is necessary as well.  Basically I'm looking for a blueprint to scale from for building a smaller version of the real thing.

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2005, 05:37:57 PM »
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
Can anyone direct me to where I could find design drawings for the Spitfire?  Preferably the Mk I, but I think any of them should give me what I need.  I am especially looking for wing design info, but the rest is necessary as well.  Basically I'm looking for a blueprint to scale from for building a smaller version of the real thing.

Thanks!


Try here.

http://www.spitfirerestoration.com/

Might cost a little, but should give you everything you want

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2005, 05:59:35 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2005, 06:14:54 PM »
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SUPERMARINE SPITFIRE BEING BUILT BY BOB MEARS, POWERED BY A MAZDA 20B 3-ROTOR WANKEL.  THESE LINKS WILL DOCUMENT THE CONSTRUCTION


You linked to a Supermarine kit plane, Milo.  I think Star is looking for the WWII fighter, not:


http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/About.htm

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2005, 07:32:36 PM »
Actually what I am working on is building an ultralight scale model.  A friend of mine used to build boats for a living and has expressed a desire to build a plane.  I was in the market for a new Ultralight, but was not  happy with the current offerings as far as design goes, and with shipping costs to get kit type frameworks sent here to Hawaii.  Doing a little research into wing designs pretty much had me leaning towards an elliptical wing, and I thought "Why do the hard work of trying to design an airplane from the ground up, when that much has already been done".  I'd also like to have a design that somewhat mirrors my interests.  

I've got rough plans for a frame sketched out but I am unsure of the actual dimensions of a real Spitfire.  Once I can get ahold of a set of plans, I can scale them, and work out a weight.  I'm shooting for around 400-500 pounds empty weight.  We are going to utilise aluminum for the framework, and carbon-fiber for the "skin" (at least on the wings and the engine cowl, the fuselage itself we may make out of fiberglass from a mold, depends on money).  It will have an open cockpit and fixed landing gear.

All the links are useful and I thank you.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 06:15:54 AM »
You'll need the blueprints, but some have already scaled them and done the basic work.
Have a look at http://www.supermarineaircraft.com to see what it looks like.
http://www.loehle.com has something as well, - wooden and cheaper.
But the australian one, - nice nice.
I could live with it :D

It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 01:09:58 PM »
Now I have a serious delimma.  One of the kits from the loehle website is pretty close to the final cost we were looking at for what I was going to build.  And it has retractable landing gear.  And 13 gallon fuel capacity.  And a bigger engine than I was going to use.  Or I could buy one of the Bi-plane kits!  Ahh, a Spad!  Or even the Fokker!  Heck, even the Jenny would be fun!

Granted, shipping has to be figured in, and it wouldnt be cheap, but then I'd be using a tested airframe vs. one we made from scratch.........

Ah well, more to think about.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2005, 01:15:42 PM by StarOfAfrica2 »

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 01:14:21 PM »
And it looks like a real Spit.  Or at least a lot closer than any of the other smaller scale warbird kits I've seen.  I'm thinking of getting one!

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 02:55:22 PM »
I've spoken to some people up here that knew the Loehle stuff.
It's quite fine they said, apart from the wing cover.
Apparently they use a kind of a bag rather than stretching the fabric on (thermal issue).
The baggy cover will leave a much weaker surface, causing more drage etc.
However, there is no technical reason not to apply the other method, since the framework is all there, - just a question of skin.

Anyway, I wish you the best, and it would be fun to hear how you'll do in the future.

I have a friend who is an avionics expert, and some mates that are in the ultralight business. If I can be of assist, just mail.
   

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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2005, 02:58:08 PM »
Oh, forgot.

I spoke to Loehle some 3 years ago.
Very nice people.

It's a small business, so I imagine that the business is close and rather friendly.

I've also corresponed emails with supermarineaircraft.
They responded very nicely and quickly.

IMHO their kit is IT !!!!!!
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 03:04:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Crumpp
You linked to a Supermarine kit plane, Milo.  I think Star is looking for the WWII fighter, not:


http://www.supermarineaircraft.com/About.htm

Crumpp


Seems that is the way SoA is going now, eh Crumpp.

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 03:26:54 PM »
The supermarine plane is nice.  I mean, its really nice.  Basically, its a Mk26 spitfire with a modern engine and modern, lightweight materials for the frame.  However, way too much money and not what I'm looking for.  I fly ultralights.  Not the same thing at all.  And while I am working on getting my private pilots license, I dont have one now, and I'm not sure what the licensing requirements are for a warbird knockoff like that.  If I go with the lightweight kits like Loehle has, those are considered Light Sport planes.  Still above an Ultralight, but much more what I'm used to.  I still dont know, as I like the thought of building something myself.  But at the same time, I'm impatient and this would be oh so much faster and easier lol.

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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 03:33:23 AM »
Me and a friend are planning for the Supermarine in the future.
It's financable, and basically costs about the same as a good jeep.
But,,,,,we need a hangar, and I don't have one yet.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2005, 10:06:44 AM »
How safe is ultralight flying compared to other forms of avaition?


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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 03:17:52 PM »
Everything from totally disaterous to safer than a Cessna ;)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)