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Offline mietla

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Boroda, this should bring a tear...
« on: January 21, 2005, 04:11:28 PM »
It is not often that you can see a successful rocket launch while soviet national anthem plays in a background.

desiat, deviat, vosem, sem, shest, piat, chetire, tree, dva, adin,

poosk



http://www.moonrace2001.org/av/garyr.mov

http://www.moonrace2001.org/av/david.mov



.... and the whole story.

http://www.moonrace2001.org/


« Last Edit: January 21, 2005, 06:26:49 PM by mietla »

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2005, 04:15:48 PM »
I was there, it was great.

At the same event, a guy named Andy Woerner launched a 12 foot high V2.  It headed upwards, then one of the engines apparently exploded.  It tilted over towards the crowd and began flying sideways.  It passed about 200 feet over the crowd and impacted 20 or so feet past the last parked car, making a huge crater in the desert.

It was an awesome experience, if sad.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 04:18:31 PM »
Futuristic? Wait till Boroda shows here.

This is N1, as real as it gets. Just more successful than the original I might say.


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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 04:21:40 PM »
mietla, that last link you had originally posted had a nasty little pop-up in it.  Just FYI.  It is why I removed the link.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 04:22:58 PM »
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Did the original fly at all?



Well, yes and no. No offiicial successful flight, but they've managed to blew up a bunch of them in a process.

http://www.moonrace2001.org/n1_history.shtml

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 04:25:30 PM »
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mietla, that last link you had originally posted had a nasty little pop-up in it.  Just FYI.  It is why I removed the link.


pop up? I never saw that. I'm using Firefox so maybe that's why.

I'll check in out later today. Thanks for taking care of this.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2005, 04:27:57 PM »
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Did the original fly at all?

The original flew.

Briefly.

Both launches ended up exploding, one of them on the pad (it destroyed the tower, launch pad, etc.  Early surveillance photos of the aftermath suspected an atomic explosion).

Many space historians believe that the Soviet Union's decision not to build mounts to test fire the stages seperately on the ground significantly contributed to the problems, from a project management perspective.

Technically, what most likely happened was that the extremely complicated plumbing (look at how many engines the real one had versus the Saturn V) meant that a failure in one line could shrapnelize surrounding rockets.  The KORD engine management system that the N1 used was a lowtech, but theoretically adequate crisis control system.  If an engine at one side of the rocket failed, it would shut down the corresponding engine on the other side to prevent uneven thrust, and theoretically there was enough power in the remaining engines to allow a succesful launch regardless.

In reality, KORD appeared to shut down too many engines, leading many to suspect that some type of catastrophic failure occured in the engine bay, taking out a whole bank of turbopumps or plumbing.  End result, rocket lifts off, hovers, then falls backwards into the tower.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2005, 04:28:19 PM »
BTW, you mean nasty like in dirty or nasty like in annoying?

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2005, 04:30:31 PM »
Any popup is nasty.

Specifically, yours was because an image you posted required HTTP authenitication to get at.  Consequently, we all got a big window asking for username/password for the server the picture was based on.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2005, 04:31:22 PM »
What Chairboy said.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2005, 04:34:37 PM »
GS, you want to take the phone calls from people who do not understand why our board is asking for a login/password?

Not everyone (heck,..most people) understands what is going on when things like this happen.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2005, 04:44:23 PM »
I think he was just explaining to Mietla what the popup was, rather than second-guessing your edit, Skuzz.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2005, 04:48:37 PM »
LOL, on the other hand...
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2005, 04:52:42 PM »
Hehe,..this took an interesting turn.  Sorry for the hijack mietla.

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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2005, 04:54:22 PM »
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Hehe,..this took an interesting turn.  Sorry for the hijack mietla.

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that's ok, you did the right thing. I forgot that I'm always logged in there so I do not see any pop ups.


Sorry for the trouble.