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Offline weaselsan

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« on: January 23, 2005, 01:53:15 PM »
I believe this will be the answer to the problems in the middle east as well as environmental concerns world wide. I hope I live long enough to see the results.

A fuel cell harnesses the electricity created in the chemical reaction that occurs when hydrogen and oxygen are combined. Hundreds of fuel cells are "stacked" together, combining their electrical outputs into enough electricity to power a car.

In the not-too-distant future, fuel cells will change how we live our everyday lives. They will power our vehicles, homes and office buildings more efficiently and with significantly less impact on the environment than fossil fuels. Fuel cell technology could end energy shortages and reduce reliance on imported oil. Before that day comes, however, four important challenges - hydrogen storage, cost reduction, durability and infrastructure development - must be solved. GM is working to solve these problems.



The Hy-wire has no internal combustion engine, instrument panel, brake or accelerator pedals – but it does have ample power supplied by a GM fuel cell that runs on hydrogen.

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2005, 01:56:42 PM »
I think they just need more porn.....really just some good old fasion T&A and all of their liberals will no longer want to sympothize w/ the religious fundamentalist.  This causes a Red Vrs Blue condition wich leads to this great thing we like to call democracy!

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2005, 02:05:42 PM »
The lefties would have to change their chants to "no blood for Hydrogen'. No Big Oil to whine about. Big Peanut butter wouldn't sell. The Saudis would have nothing to sell but camels and used Mercedes...think about it.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2005, 02:11:30 PM »
You would still need energy to create the fuel.  So it would have to be combined with the creation of non-oil using engery sources, such as windmills, nuke plants etc.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2005, 02:24:51 PM »
no blood for hydrogen.....

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2005, 02:31:10 PM »
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You would still need energy to create the fuel.  So it would have to be combined with the creation of non-oil using engery sources, such as windmills, nuke plants etc.


The hydrogen extracted from a gallon of water using a hydrogen generator could drive a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle as far as gasoline vehicles travel today on a gallon of gasoline.

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2005, 02:42:22 PM »
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Originally posted by weaselsan
I believe this will be the answer to the problems in the middle east


what problems? dont tell me the probs there are because of OIL ! lol
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2005, 02:53:22 PM »
vehicles are not the big consumers of fuel.


ships, aircraft, heavy industries....


thing that hopefully will eventually go to non-fossil fuel but if it takes this much effort to get one puny little car running on it, i dont see hydrogen or whatcannit fueling an airliner or cargo ship anytime in the coming century.

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2005, 03:01:00 PM »
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what problems? dont tell me the probs there are because of OIL ! lol


They are from oil. Oil is the only product that the middle east has. It has used this vast oil revenue to shore up Dictatorships that have caused the World a lot of grief. Saddam didn't use his persian rug profits to build up the worlds fourth largest military. He never invaded Kuwait to get at their Camel Dung reserves.
Without Oil Revenues the middle east will be a safer and saner place.

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2005, 03:02:55 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2005, 03:08:32 PM »
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The hydrogen extracted from a gallon of water using a hydrogen generator could drive a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle as far as gasoline vehicles travel today on a gallon of gasoline.



The only problem is it takes more energy to extract the hydrogen from the water than you get back from the hydrogen.

Hydrogen isn't an energy source, it's an energy transfer or storage mechanism.

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2005, 03:28:28 PM »
How many Horsepower does that thing have?



The problem with all these secondary fuel sources is that they do not provide the power that Gas does.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2005, 03:30:20 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2005, 03:38:55 PM »
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The only problem is it takes more energy to extract the hydrogen from the water than you get back from the hydrogen.

Hydrogen isn't an energy source, it's an energy transfer or storage mechanism.


Heres where nuclear energy comes in...

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2005, 04:05:05 PM »
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How many Horsepower does that thing have?



The problem with all these secondary fuel sources is that they do not provide the power that Gas does.


oh yeah. what we need is more POWER, 250 hp is not enough we need 500hp...800hp.. 1000hp to drive to the market AT 35 MPH

HAAARRRGGGHH I GOTS MORE POWER THAN YOUS