Pats Dynasty, Congratulations.

[JBA]

Best Offence in Football. With  Pattan "I play in a dome with perfect weather conditions" Manning....

Held to 3 points,    whooop A... has been deliverd


Best Defence in Football. With You cant score or run on us...

Points scored 41,  whoop A... has been delived.



Eagles....... Please,  Belicheck will make Mcnabb , look like a high school freshman.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by JBA
Best Offence in Football. With  Pattan "I play in a dome with perfect weather conditions" Manning....

Held to 3 points,    whooop A... has been deliverd


Best Defence in Football. With You cant score or run on us...

Points scored 41,  whoop A... has been delived.



Eagles....... Please,  Belicheck will make Mcnabb , look like a high school freshman.

I would tend to agree. Not that the Eagles are a bad team. they certainly are not. But Because Belicheck is that good of a coach.

[Sixpence]

Dynasty, such a silly word in football. Just a good group of solid football players who believe in each other playing selfless football. The same can be said for the organisation, from the owner down to the water boy.

[mosca]

Hats off to the Pats. It was like watching a wrestling match between two great wrestlers, but one being a couple years older and more experienced. Every time the Steelers got some momentum, the Pats took it right back. Good job; the game was never in question.


Tom
Steelers fan extraordinaire

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by mosca
Hats off to the Pats. It was like watching a wrestling match between two great wrestlers, but one being a couple years older and more experienced. Every time the Steelers got some momentum, the Pats took it right back. Good job; the game was never in question.


Tom
Steelers fan extraordinaire

I thought the biggest, or at least one of the biggest mistakes the Steelers made was not going for it on 4th down near the goal line in the 4th quarter.

With the way the time clock was running with only a feild goal they still would have needed two scores and it was unlikely they were going to have the time for that barring a quick turnover so a feild goal putting them down by 11 was pointless.

They should  have made the decision to do or die then.

[JBA]

Bill Cowher is a coward. Always plays conservatively, plays to not lose, thats not playing to win, and will never win the big games that way.

[mosca]

Not sure it was Cowher, JBA. Postgame quote from Roethlisberger, re the interception that was run back for a TD:

"All week, it was funny.  I have been throwing, reading that safety jumping the tight end and throwing over the top to Hines (Ward) and for some reason, I was thinking just to move the ball down the field instead of taking the big shot.  Maybe I should have thrown to Hines (Ward)."

That sounds to me like a rookie who is playing conservatively because he's unsure of his ability.

I agreed with the field goal call. That's the one that you would need with 4 seconds left, but right now instead. I mean, you're down by 2 TDs and you need 3 scores, but only 2 of them have to be TDs. Get the third one NOW.

To me, there were several big plays, but to me the most important was when the Steelers went for it on 4th and 2 in the first quarter and didn't make it. Cowher's quote, when asked about that: "Yes. I liked that part of the field. I would do that again too." That doesn't sound like a coward to me. The Steelers were trying to assert their dominance at that moment, and the Pats were having none of it. It was a big risk, because if it backfired it would give control of the tenor of the game to the Pats, and it did.


Tom

[DoKGonZo]

With the Pats, it's more than just the usual concept of "coaching." It's that they've assembled a team of good, smart, versatile players and they use everyone on the roster. This goes against the typical model of building a team around a few franchise players. That old model, while it still works and (obviously) can be a money-maker for the stars and the team, isn't beating the Patriots model - and it isn't cost-effective.

The scariest thing about the Pats is that most of the same players will be back next year, plus who knows who they'll pick up as a free agent.


As for the Steelers, yeah, I agree that Cowher plays too defensive. Bettis has a fumble and they yank him. In pre-game you kept hearing about them not wanting to have to rely on Ben winning the game, and how Ben didn't want to let the team down. For all their bravado, they were more afraid of losing or making mistakes than of winning. Belicheck didn't do that - Cowher did. He always has too - especially with his QB's and RB's.


I think McNabb will do OK against the Pats. He's experienced enough to avoid throwing INT's. The Eagles just don't have the depth the Patriots do, though. Or the experience of winning the SB in the clutch.

[moose]

i dont want to get too excited just yet. its been a good run though, thats for sure.

JBA, you should take a page from the pats playbook and not get overconfident. you must not be long-lived in boston if you haven't learned from the sox not to count your chickens

my sporting life would be perfect if the whoopee NHL had a season and the bruins actually spent some money the right way instead of how they usually operate. their cheapskate owner needs to go. tired of going out in the quarterfinals every year

[newguy]

The Eagles are going to suprise a few of you.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by mosca
To me, there were several big plays, but to me the most important was when the Steelers went for it on 4th and 2 in the first quarter and didn't make it. Cowher's quote, when asked about that: "Yes. I liked that part of the field. I would do that again too." That doesn't sound like a coward to me. The Steelers were trying to assert their dominance at that moment, and the Pats were having none of it. It was a big risk, because if it backfired it would give control of the tenor of the game to the Pats, and it did.


Tom

Actually, it was the play right after that. Brady looked to his right at David Givens running the crossing route underneath the safety, the safety bit on it big time jumping the route leaving Deion Branch one on one with the corner. As soon as brady saw the safety bite on the fake he hit Branch on the post. The safety should never have left the corner without help deep, he got cute and got burned. The last thing the Steelers wanted to do was give up the big play and let New England get out in front by double digits. You can't watch Brady's eyes, he will fake you out, you have to play with discipline and stay where you are supposed to be, that corner got left on an island, he should have had help.

[JBA]

Originally posted by moose
i dont want to get too excited just yet. its been a good run though, thats for sure.

JBA, you should take a page from the pats playbook and not get overconfident. you must not be long-lived in boston if you haven't learned from the sox not to count your chickens

my sporting life would be perfect if the whoopee NHL had a season and the bruins actually spent some money the right way instead of how they usually operate. their cheapskate owner needs to go. tired of going out in the quarterfinals every year

Born and raise in New England. Know all about the sox.

The owner of the B's is from Buffalo NY. thats the problem, out of state landlord, dosen't give a damn about winning just putting fannies in the sits. He ownes the building and the consessions.

[Raider179]

GO EAGLES!!!!

[Monk]

Originally posted by Raider179
GO EAGLES!!!!

Who?

[Nefarious]

I dont think the play on 4th and 2 in the first quarter was that big of a play. Personally I would have attempted a field goal or if behind by more faked it with Maddox as the place kicker.

As soon as they lined up, I knew they were going to give it to Bettis. Of course Hind sight is 20/20, but it seemed the Patriots knew exactly what was going to happen.

Why not screen or Shovel it out?

I definatley dont think he is a coward though, but I somewhat agree on playing too conservatively. But I think the biggest problem is his play calling in general.

You knew the Patriots were going in Defensivley to..

A. Stop the Steeler Run
B. Force Ben to throw interceptions

Everybody knew that before hand. So why not switch it up on them?, Line up with Bettis and 3 or 4 Wide Recievers, force the Patriots to guess.

If the Patriots know you are going to run the Ball every First Down, And they line up with 9 Players on the line of scrimmage, Dont run the ball!!!! Its that simple!!!

Call an Audible and go to the Air!!!