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Offline Tilt

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« on: January 25, 2005, 06:32:05 AM »
what % of MA players do you think even know why they have been out manouvered or even understand when (by luck or skill) they have out manouvered their opponent.

I would say less than 30%
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2005, 06:40:15 AM »
I'm starting to see the AcM5b more and more....... :)

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2005, 06:40:16 AM »
im probably in that 70% lucky percent

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2005, 06:41:06 AM »
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Originally posted by Tilt
what % of MA players do you think even know why they have been out manouvered or even understand when (by luck or skill) they have out manouvered their opponent.

I would say less than 30%



If you gauge it by how many players try to HO you on a normal co-E merge (which I think is the most telling indication of total  lack of a clue about ACM)  I would think it's more like 80% have no idea, without exaggeration.

So yes that put's your number of less than 30% in the ballpark.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2005, 06:56:04 AM »
and of that 30% (or 20% or even 10%), 85% of them know sort of what happened but think you're cheating because you accomplished it so quickly.

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 09:12:43 AM »
And 90% of the people in AH think they belong in that alite 10% while they think the rest of the players are just idiots :D
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 09:19:14 AM »
I must agree, it took me almost 2 years till it all started to make sense lolh.

I think Redd is totally right, the HO is a great indication of how little people know about ACM. Especially when you are up against a plane you know can out maneuver you, yet the guy just keeps jousting. LOLH.

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BTW Has anyone else noticed people BnZing in Hurricanes and Spits lately.  LOLH.

I actually had a Hurry, dive in from alt and then run from my Spit V, granted he didn't get far, but he tried lolh:lol

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2005, 10:41:50 AM »
i know that in most plane matchup's why the other player got the better of me, my biggest problem lately seems to be, getting impatient and crashing either into the ground or into the enemy:rolleyes:

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2005, 10:47:39 AM »
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i know that in most plane matchup's why the other player got the better of me,


My main killer, bad estimate of the other guys E.  Once in a while its ACM ( you know when your luck runs out and you meet Morp, Slap, . . . )  but most of the times someone was faster than I thought he was.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2005, 11:17:54 AM »
<<>> WTG Shane!!

Where you been man?

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 12:07:25 PM »
Nearly every time I'm in a real ACM situation (more than 1v1) and it turns into a challenging fight, my opponent typically seems to recognize it for what it's worth.

If it's a reasonably talented player who bugs out at the first sign that they're not going to get a quick kill, I figure they're missing the point.  It's guys like dipstick, who take me on even though I have a slight opening advantage, fight me to the deck even though there are other enemies in the area, eventually kill me or get killed, and then come across ch200 with a complement, that are the ones who "get it" I think.

BTW dipstick won and I'm still mad at myself :)  I think the other nearby guy on my side either tried to HO dip and died, or bravely ran away, I don't remember.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 12:53:28 PM »
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I think the other nearby guy on my side either tried to HO dip and died, or bravely ran away, I don't remember.



??? what other choices are there?

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 07:20:57 PM »
I have no idea 90 percent of the time what I'm doing. No idea what a move is called. No idea what to do when. No idea what they just did. No ideas really at all.

Dodge Ho. Dodge another Ho. Dodge a guy who didn't ho but was going so fast he couldnt get a shot but thought he'd at least try. Dodge a ho..Turn this way and that way..dodge hos...Die

Have no move to counter another. Have no idea how he turned so fast and was right there. Have no ideas about anything in this game.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 09:59:00 PM »
I have been really running into some good fights lately.  Pretty much due to the blue knights and also GooseCH.  I know its somebody worthwhile when they don't go for the HO first.  A lot of times what I will see is a plane will approach me for the HO, at about 800 to 1k I'll pull up to start the reverse, see the bullets fly by, then see the guy go nose down and fly away.  I'll chase for a  bit, pull off, he turns around, I turn around..   Rinse and Repeat.

Seriously, this wears my patience down more than anything.  If you are just going to run... keep running, don't turn around and try the lame trick over and over again.  After the second time, I'll just shoot at him in the HO to end the monotany.  

I did find the dampening on my stick is seriously messed and causing me to snaproll something crazy.  Mostly on the rudder end.  So I put the stall limiter back on till I get my rudder pedals and a good stick input setup.  Its kinda lame, but I was getting WAY too ticked off with the snaprolls.  

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2005, 06:06:47 AM »
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I know its somebody worthwhile when they don't go for the HO first.  


I was saying the same thing to a squadie the other day. If I see no HO attempt on the intitial merge I know I've got someone  with skills on my hands.  The good ones don't seem to think they need to HO, they rely on that whole manuevering thing to get you.