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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 08:42:51 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2005, 10:16:22 AM »
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Everything from totally disaterous to safer than a Cessna


LOL Angus, thanks for clearing things up :)

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2005, 12:03:00 PM »
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Me and a friend are planning for the Supermarine in the future.
It's financable, and basically costs about the same as a good jeep.
But,,,,,we need a hangar, and I don't have one yet.


Huh?  A good JEEP??  The pricing on their website said the kit alone is over $98,000.  And that doesnt include an engine.  You have expensive tastes in Jeeps.

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2005, 12:24:18 PM »
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How safe is ultralight flying compared to other forms of avaition?


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Ultralights are not only very safe, they are very fun.  I heard one quote from a man who said that Ultralight flight is the "last true form of flying left to a man."  Meaning, "seat of your pants" style flying, without instruments and computers.  Although the nicer Ultralights do have basic guages.  

Here is the USUA definitions and requirements for Ultralights and Hang Gliders.  

http://www.usua.org/Rules/faa103.htm

Typically, most places do not require any certification to fly Ultralights.  If you can get a Drivers License, you can legally fly one.  The FAA would like to change that, mostly due to some really boneheaded stunts by Ultralight flyers (I wont call them Pilots), but until they can come up with legal definitions that satisfy everyone in the community, they are unlikely to get much support.

The next step up is a "Light Sport" plane, typically around 400 - 600 pounds with a slightly larger engine.  These require passing a FAA medical exam, plus Drivers License to get your "Sport Pilot" license.

Hope this helps!

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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2005, 01:09:32 PM »
I've been interested in learning to fly most of my life. But, something has always come up. Now, it's grad school and starting a family (at 40 :)), future kid's college and retirement hitting about the same time down the road.  One thing with a PPL for me is the cost, another thing is flying enough to remain safe in congested areas like Chicago. There is also the weather/winters out here. An ultralight would seem to offer an affordable, fun way to do some low impact flying.

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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2005, 01:55:05 PM »
This seems an oppertune place to post this:

A sim addict goes flying

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2005, 05:36:36 PM »
Seeker,explain,SCAV left us,meaning he passed away or made a change in game?
btw,that was great reading,one of my reasons for building a simpit.I grew up close to an airbase and could sit on top of my grandparents roof and see them practice,quite a few old planes back in the 60's still in the air plus of course jets.
Airplanes were the only toys i played with and thats all i got for christmas.Thnaks for sharing that link.

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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2005, 07:06:36 PM »
Ahh, THATS where I remembered that quote from lol.  I heard a guy say it once, and knew I had seen it in print.  I wonder if he was a flight sim addict too?  

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Seeker,explain,SCAV left us,meaning he passed away or made a change in game?


Scavenger died in 1994.  I didnt join AW until Feb. 1996, so I never met him or got to know him except through the writing he left behind, and talking to people who knew him.  Heck of a guy.

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2005, 07:24:26 PM »
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I've been interested in learning to fly most of my life. But, something has always come up. Now, it's grad school and starting a family (at 40 :)), future kid's college and retirement hitting about the same time down the road.  One thing with a PPL for me is the cost, another thing is flying enough to remain safe in congested areas like Chicago. There is also the weather/winters out here. An ultralight would seem to offer an affordable, fun way to do some low impact flying.

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Charon, you can get an entry level Ultralight for around 3-5k.  We are talking no cockpit, just basic aileron, rudder and elevators.  Probably no instruments other than a compass, although I really recommend airspeed and altimeter.  I said before they are very safe.  And they are.  But because of the lack of restrictions, people will do some very boneheaded things.  You have to be careful, just like anything else in life.  Study the weight restrictions of the model you like.  Make sure its capable of hauling your butt into the sky without crashing.  Since I've been old enough to drive, I've never been a "small" guy, and thats even more true now.  At my current weight, I'd have to step up to a mid-range Sport plane to feel safe in the air.  Ultralights are going to be out unless I lose some weight.  Study your intended takeoff/landing area carefully.  Most Ultralights need around 100ft. to takeoff, and 150ft. to land.  Give yourself a MINIMUM of 225 feet clearance, I prefer 300 feet.  I watched a friend die because he didnt pay enough attention to his landing approach, got caught in a downdraft and ran into high tension powerlines.  Sheared half his tail off and it crumpled like a squashed soda can on impact.  If he had just taken the time to go around to the other end of the field before starting his landing approach, he'd still be alive.  There's no control tower to keep you out of trouble and make your decisions for you.  It also doesnt hurt to learn some of what they teach Pilots going for their Private.  Learn to know the weather when you plan on going up.  Even though you have 5 gallons or less of fuel, learn to calculate fuel consumption and keep track in your head of your estimate of what you have left.  You want a comfortable margin when you are ready to land, most Ultralights are designed to have a steep rate of descent and alot of drag to keep you from coming in too fast on a landing.  In other words, they dont glide well.  Or wont for a long distance anyway.

All that being said, if you are really interested in getting into it, shoot me an email.  My old bird is hangared in a barn in S. Illinois and I cant afford to ship it here.  Its just collecting rust and dust, and I'd be willing to let it go fairly cheap.  You'd have to find a way to get it up north where you are though.

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2005, 08:10:24 AM »
"Huh? A good JEEP?? The pricing on their website said the kit alone is over $98,000. And that doesnt include an engine. You have expensive tastes in Jeeps."

Well, a good Nissan Patrol, straight from the box, costs some 80.000 USD where I live.
But it looks like the kit went up a bit since the last time I looked
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2005, 09:00:43 AM »
I'd want to go along for a test flight this summer first, SoA. Don't know how well I would like sitting out in the open like that. I have no trouble in cessnas or a UH1 with an open door (and me sitting feet from the edge) but you do seem to be hanging in the breeze there and I have some dislike for "open" heights.

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2005, 10:18:25 AM »
If I was looking for an ultralight I'd go for a little monoplane with stretched skin wings like the Kolb.
Or a tiny Jodel.

Tried to takeoff last year in an autogyro without success.
Don't recommend those at all.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2005, 12:08:39 PM »
My old one is an enclosed cockpit, high wing design with a 60 HP Rotax engine.  No doors on the sides, but it has a floor and basic instruments.  Fixed landing gear.  I'll see if I can get my brother to take some pics of it and email them to me.