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Offline Gunslinger

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Do you guys really want Dr Dean?
« on: January 25, 2005, 07:11:28 PM »
Was watching the news today and saw that Howard Dean is still making a play for the chairmanship of the DNC.

I really have to ask some of the DEMOCRATS (notice I didnt say liberals because it's applicable to the thread) do you really want this guy running your party?  

This is serious question not a troll.....I just do not think Howard Dean is in touch with today's America at all.  It's people like him that want to move the party more left rather than centering it.  Is a move to the left the right answer?  Do you really think becoming more left will help you relate to the "small minded simpletons" of the red states?

To me I see it as if the GOP handed the chairmenship over to somone like Ann coulter or Rush Limbaugh......just not a smart move IMHO.....for you guys that is....me I say Bring him on!

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2005, 07:15:38 PM »
come on Guns, that is a troll if I ever saw one, hell we know they are stupid... but this stinks like caca del toro.:D
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2005, 07:26:38 PM »
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come on Guns, that is a troll if I ever saw one, hell we know they are stupid... but this stinks like caca del toro.:D


seriously not a troll.  I'm kinda curious what RPM and Sandman might say.  They usually have pretty good insight into the mind of a surviving breathing liberal.  

Seriously not a troll...I think it would make an interesting discussion.  :)

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2005, 07:31:29 PM »
Have you actually looked into Dean, or are you making assumptions based on his run for the Presidential nomination?  I'd support Dean running things for the Democrats alot sooner than I would some of the other leeches we've got hanging on.  I do think the Democrats in Washington have a long way to go before they get in touch with the average person in America again, but Dean isnt that bad.  At least, from the impression I've gotten, he's willing to listen.  Thats a plus in my book.

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Re: Do you guys really want Dr Dean?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2005, 07:59:29 PM »
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Is a move to the left the right answer?


Was a move to the right, the right answer for the Republicans? Seems to have worked out okay.

A common theme in the critique of the Kerry campaign is that they blew it by wasting all their time worrying about getting the "undecided's" vote. Whereas the Bush's win is seen as a result of blowing off the moderates and getting their base to turn out.

It's prolly time to face the fact that the US is pretty solidly divided. Pandering to the middle makes less and less sense when that middle is rapidly facing extinction.

It would seem, anyways.

But, nay to Dean.

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2005, 08:08:08 PM »
Dean is the worst choice possible.  He has proven to be somewhat of a loose cannon.  Even his campaign manager Joe Trippy is not supporting him.

Martin Frost almost won the district he moved to after having his old one redrawn ( a republican district).  I think based on that perfomance alone he is the best choice.  He also has the experience,  contacts, orginization and the savy.  In other words, the Dems will never pick him.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2005, 08:12:09 PM »
I find it hard to believe that dean represents moderate or conservative democrats.  I think calling dean a liberal democrat does the term liberal a disservice.

Dean is a radical progressive socialist that represnts the extreme left in american politics.

Rejoice if he gains the chair.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2005, 08:17:51 PM »
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I find it hard to believe that dean represents moderate or conservative democrats.  I think calling dean a liberal democrat does the term liberal a disservice.

Dean is a radical progressive socialist that represnts the extreme left in american politics.

Rejoice if he gains the chair.


that's my thinking of the guy too yeager.  Alot of those who associate w/ demacrats or even liberals arent the extremest hippies we so often make them....others arent fans of socialism.....to me I just don't see how his ideals can dig the DNC out of their hole.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2005, 08:23:14 PM »
They should hire Bill Clinton.. and no I'm not kidding.

He is probably the finest politician to hold the office in the last 50 years.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2005, 08:38:26 PM »
I'm with MT, but on the other hand, I'm a little sick of the politicians on both sides pandering to the middle. It lacks courage.

Sure, Willy Jeff is slick, but Dean at least has passion.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 08:43:04 PM »
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that's my thinking of the guy too yeager.  Alot of those who associate w/ demacrats or even liberals arent the extremest hippies we so often make them....others arent fans of socialism.....to me I just don't see how his ideals can dig the DNC out of their hole.


Holy crap, did you actually say that?

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 08:45:28 PM »
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"... I'm a little sick of the politicians on both sides pandering to the middle. It lacks courage.


Well said.

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 09:02:56 PM »
I think MTs got a point though....slick willy doesnt really need to pander because he KNOWs how to play politics and is actually a very charismatic person.  

Yes Hawker I said it....not really an amazing statement or sig material as I do lean to the right I am more of a libertarian than a republican.  Most of my ideals are based loosly on the morals my parents raised me with, common sense, and my personal association with those on the left with liberal hippie flag burning communists.   ;)

The next election is going to be an interesting one.  The Dems are gonna have to start from scratch because ABB wont get them many votes next time.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 09:22:58 PM »
Slicky Willy would be great, he could give a little class back to a party that really needs it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2005, 09:28:36 PM »
ABB?
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