I'm unusually proud to be an American today...

[Yeager]

is the number quoted in a British medical journal, I believe The Lancet, as the "excess mortality" (dunno if that's the correct term - deaths over and above the normally-expected rate) which had occurred, according to their study, since the start of this round of operations in Iraq.
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bunch of crap if you ask me.

[Nash]

Originally posted by Yeager
bunch of crap if you ask me.

Who would seriously ask you? Who out there? Who would ask you? Anyone?

Okay I'm just bustin' yer chops... don't even know what yer talkin' about.  

[Otto]

I'm unusually proud to be an American today...

Not sure where this thread got to, don't have time to read it..

Dosen't matter...  

I'm still proud to be a citizen of the United States...

Carry on.....

[ghi]

Originally posted by Toad

. Humanity has some requirements. [/B]

 

   What requirements are talking about!!?

 to starve and destroy 100 000  souls in the name of freedom  ?!
 

  Toad,  
                 go in the bathroom and watch youself in the mirror, whatever you see now is not going to be there after months years, is just minerls and dust in a special arrangement comming from earth and going to earth, but the soul behind is a superior form of energy, ,
  and in our "Instruction  Manual", the Bible, or any other positiviste religious books the law is clear:  DO NOT KILL
 war is killer,  primitive solution for humans to resolve the problems,
 
  PS. i left Romania after revolution looking for better life,

[Toad]

Originally posted by ghi

 to starve and destroy 100 000  souls in the name of freedom  ?!

Like I said, this claim is simply Bullshirt. You're pulling out of your anal vent. Prove otherwise and I'll apologize.
 

 

Originally posted by ghi
Toad,  
                 go in the bathroom and watch youself in the mirror, whatever you see now is not going to be there after months years, is just minerls and dust in a special arrangement comming from earth and going to earth, but the soul behind is a superior form of energy, ,

I have the feeling that I understand this concept far better than most; I'm much closer to experimenting with it for reasons beyond my control. I have the feeling I understand it far better than you, for example.


 

Originally posted by ghi
and in our "Instruction  Manual", the Bible, or any other positiviste religious books the law is clear:  DO NOT KILL
 war is killer,  primitive solution for humans to resolve the problems,

[/b]  

You'd make a good Quaker, I think. Still I wonder what you'd do if the Securitate was in that act of killing your children and you had a gun in your hand. Would you just stand and watch?

Originally posted by ghi

  PS. i left Romania after revolution looking for better life,

Did you participate? Were you in the streets of Timișoara in December of 1989? In Bucharest? If so, which side were you on? Did you stand with the government or against it?

[ghi]

i'm 36 years old, in  december 1989 i was student of Univesrsity of Cluj Napoca, in Transilvania was not much going on there,  only 10-15 peoples died there,  No , no way i was not on the goverment side,
 
  if i would kill someone trying to kill my daughter?
 
Hmm, hard to say if you are not in that situation but    

 No,when is about life and death God said not to judge others let him do it,

[NUKE]

So why did you move to Canada?

[GRUNHERZ]

I always find that devout pacisifts have a great deal of trouble with the what if somebody is killing your child question. I think thats the point where they realize the fooloshness of their absolutist position - if only for that personal moment of internal reflection.

Being a pacifist,  never kill anyone type makes about as much sense as advocating war and killing as a solution for every problem every time...

[ghi]

Originally posted by NUKE
So why did you move to Canada?

 As i said before, looking for better life
  Before i moved here i worked 5 years in bars and restaurants on the cruise ships for Princess Cruises, i been cruissing and tasted most of the world, i choose Canada,

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by ghi
As i said before, looking for better life
  Before i moved here i worked 5 years in bars and restaurants on the cruise ships for Princess Cruises, i been cruissing and tasted most of the world, i choose Canada,

Why Canada Ghi, what did you really made Canada your choice as a new nation to live in?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why Canada Ghi, what did you really made Canada your choice as a new nation to live in?

I'm guessing that it's the first place that would allow him in.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Hajo
Great form of Govt. the USSR had eh?  Josef Stalin made Adolph Hitler look like a girl scout.  

In the USA your girl scout are too dangerous ... IMO of course

[Airhead]

Originally posted by ghi
i'm 36 years old, in  december 1989 i was student of Univesrsity of Cluj Napoca, in Transilvania was not much going on there,  only 10-15 peoples died there,  No , no way i was not on the goverment side,
 
  if i would kill someone trying to kill my daughter?
 
Hmm, hard to say if you are not in that situation but    

 No,when is about life and death God said not to judge others let him do it,

Transilvania?! Is that a real place??? I thought that was all make believe Barnabas Collins and Dark Shadows stuff..it nev er dawned on me Transivilia could be a real place.

And you graduated from the University of Transivivistes ???

Dude- leave that off your resume and claim insted you graduated from Chico State. Beer bongs and fatal hazings are much more acceptable than bloodsuckers from Transvilia, or however it's spellecd. (getting frustrated heere)

In fact I'm gouing to bed cause my fingers vcan't type rihgt and I'm tired.

[-dead-]

Originally posted by NUKE
You say that like Dead made some great point and now we are all silenced

The election in South Vietnam was a bad thing? Is that what he is trying to say? I'd say it looks like the election went very well, with the people coming out in large numbers and risking their lives to vote, just like in Iraq.

One bad thing for the South Vietnamese is that the democratic government was toppled by the  communist North.

Again, what's the point he was trying to make? I don't get it.

Actually what the article points out, IMO is that an election does not equal a guaranteed democracy, especially when there is no security, or security is reliant on foreign forces.

Given that it's Tet next week, I was especially mindful that 9 months after this successful election, the US started sounding the retreat, which lead to a communist insurgent victory.

It begs the question: where will Iraq be in 9 months?

I think it's a little bit early to crank up the Ethel Merman. It's much more of a Doris Day moment, really.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by -dead-
Actually what the article points out, IMO is that an election does not equal a guaranteed democracy, especially when there is no security, or security is reliant on foreign forces.

Given that it's Tet next week, I was especially mindful that 9 months after this successful election, the US started sounding the retreat, which lead to a communist insurgent victory.

It begs the question: where will Iraq be in 9 months?

I think it's a little bit early to crank up the Ethel Merman. It's much more of a Doris Day moment, really.

  If you are suggesting a complete troop pull out I would say this........It aint gonna happen.
  Once again, one of the reasons we are there is not to scout for new locations for Holiday Inn. See what`s been going on next door?
  I`d say this thread has became more like a Fred moment. Awwwww Ethel.