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Offline Raider179

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« on: January 30, 2005, 03:27:49 PM »
Ok Iraq is on its way, I think its time we got Saudi Arabia to clean up its act. Human rights abuses and lack of democracy. Or was all that Bush talk about liberty and freedom only pertain to countries we want to bomb the crap out of?

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 03:40:59 PM »
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Ok Iraq is on its way, I think its time we got Saudi Arabia to clean up its act. Human rights abuses and lack of democracy. Or was all that Bush talk about liberty and freedom only pertain to countries we want to bomb the crap out of?


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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 12:48:59 AM »
sufferage does not exist in saudi arabia in any form.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 02:05:02 AM »
What strikes me as kind of funny but not really is that they dont want our troops on their soil but they have no problem buying our planes, tanks, and military equipment. Apparently the infidels arent worthy but our Kick-Arse toys are.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 02:13:03 AM »
The Saudis are not our friends.  They aren't really our enemies, yet.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 03:51:02 AM »
We don't have a problem with oppressive arab regimes as long as they sell us oil and let us put military bases there. Guess who runs Al-Jazeera. Our good friend and ally Qatar. That's why they stay on the air.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 03:57:19 AM »
Except Al Jazeera is independant of the Qatar governemt and constantly criticizes it too.

No way, you say (in your best texas accent), no way can those brown skinned heathen muslim people have free press!!

But it's true, they do, and it's a pita.


ABOUT ALJAZERRA from thir site:

Aljazeera has come a long way since it was launched in November 1996.

Today the channel that sent shockwaves through the whole Arab world from its very first day on air has become a global name which people, governments, and decision-makers cannot afford to ignore.

With more than 30 bureaus and dozens of correspondents covering the four corners of the world Aljazeera has given millions of people a refreshing new perspective on global events.

Free from the shackles of censorship and government control Aljazeera has offered its audiences in the Arab world much needed freedom of thought, independence, and room for debate. In the rest of the world, often dominated by the stereotypical thinking of news “heavyweights”, Aljazeera offers a different and a new perspective.

Aljazeera's correspondents opened a window for the world on the millennium’s first two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Our expanded coverage competed with and sometimes outperformed our competitors bringing into the spotlight the war’s devastating impact on the lives of ordinary people.

We continue to cover all viewpoints with objectivity integrity and balance.

So now when Aljazeera speaks, the world listens and “reads”.

Aljazeera.net is the online version of the same Aljazeera.

In January 2001, Aljazeera.net (Arabic) was launched as the first mainstream Arabic news site and in no time, it rose to the top of the Arab media.  In 2002, Aljazeera.net (Arabic) received more than 811 million impressions and 161 million visits.

Boiling topics and heated debates along with objective news reporting and interactive feedback are the attributes that put Aljazeera.net amongst the 50 most visited sites worldwide.

Yet more is to come with Aljazeera.net’s latest Arabic version. The new design is a first step towards the creation of an integrated network of Aljazeera websites. The upgrade is designed to offer the visitor four sources of online information:  News, Knowledge, Channel, and Business.

The four sites are integrated through a portal that shows the latest and most important content in each site.

News is an Arabic news site which offers comprehensive coverage of world affairs and developments.

Knowledge offers an in-depth view of what goes on beyond the daily flow of news through analysis, research, and comprehensive studies.

The Channel is Aljazeera’s special site. It shows the channel’s latest developments and keeps a complete record of what it produces in a huge database that is made available to the audience.

Business is Aljazeera’s electronic marketing tool selling web services and the channel’s various productions.

EMBRACING NEW HORIZONS

Today, as we officially break the “language barrier” with Aljazeera.net English, our dream of bringing “people and continents together” is coming true. A new window of opportunity to see the world through is now opening.

Aljazeera.net English goes behind the scenes to provide every visitor with “the news they don’t see”, daringly and boldly as Aljazeera always does.

The website promises to raise traditionally sidelined questions and issues. It upholds the same philosophy of the mother organisation: “The right to speak up”.  This translates into allowing everyone to express their opinion freely, encouraging debates, viewpoints and counter viewpoints.

Aljazeera.net English has been designed to attract readers from continents poles-apart. Not only does Aljazeera.net English offer a versatile content of news and information, but it also aims to be more interactive.

Our ultimate goal is to set up a more proactive relationship with our audience, where the audience is not simply a visitor at the other end of the line. They are and they will always be an integral part of the news reporting and news making process.

Our team of dedicated journalists with their multi-national education and diversified backgrounds share a common set of attributes: objectivity, accuracy, and a passion for truth.

Truth will be the force that will drive us to raise thorny issues, to seize every opportunity for exclusive reporting, to take hold of unforgettable moments in history and to rekindle the willpower within every human being who strives for truth.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 04:16:05 AM »
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Except Al Jazeera is independant of the Qatar goverment.

WRONG! linky
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Jan. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The Qatari government has yet to decide whether it will go ahead with a proposal to sell al-Jazeera TV station to private investors, a company spokesman said.

``The government decided 14 months ago to look at the prospect of selling al-Jazeera and before the year's end a decision has to be made whether to go ahead with privatization,'' Jihad Ballout said by telephone from Doha, the capital.

The Qatari government is trying to sell al-Jazeera after officials in the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush complained about some content of the Arab language station, the New York Times reported today, citing an unidentified senior Qatari official.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 04:57:02 AM »
Thx for the info rpm, I was wrong on that one.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2005, 04:59:37 AM »
That's what happens when you listen to what Al-Jazz says. ;)
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2005, 05:08:30 AM »
Actually I got the impression from CNN, which must love to promote anything anti-US, and it seemed to check out from the info on AJ site so I went with it.

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2005, 05:16:01 AM »
Yeah, CNN has slipped off my "reliable source" list, too. It's a shame really, they used to be a top notch outfit. I watch MSNBC for cable news now.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2005, 05:18:30 AM »
I like the MSNBC website, from a quick looks it seems to strike a good balance beteen CNN and Fox styles.

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2005, 05:32:03 AM »
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sufferage does not exist in saudi arabia in any form.


Saudi citizens vote in municipal elections, therefore suffrage exists in some form however only for males at least 21 yrs.

Half of the members of municipal councils are elected; the rest are selected by the monarchy.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2005, 07:55:19 AM »
somehow, thirtyeighth goatherder from the front
just doesnt feel much like sufferage.

(opening cia world fact book...as if i should trust those screwballs anymore)

Suffrage: none.
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none adult male citizens age 21 or older
note: voter registration began in November 2004 for partial municipal council elections scheduled nationwide for February through April 2005

wow.  thats new.  i dont think it was there before.  in fact, im pretty sure it wasnt.

wow.  democracy taking root EVERYWHERE!
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