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Offline patrone

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African state new SC permanent member?
« on: January 31, 2005, 06:02:23 PM »
South-Africa, Egypt or Nigeria, who would you like to see as new permanent member in SC of UN?

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 06:03:59 PM »
None.  Why would you make a nation that is completely insignificant a permanent member of the SC?  Why need to get rid of some that are already there.

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 06:06:24 PM »
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None.  Why would you make a nation that is completely insignificant a permanent member of the SC?  Why need to get rid of some that are already there.


After understanding a lot of your posts you would like USA to leave. Would you even care who would take your place?


And what could you do about it if 2/3 of the UN would vote for this? Veto it?......:lol

After all, looking at the "Iraq" support, 30 out of 191, is rather "insignificant",,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 06:10:03 PM »
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After understanding a lot of your posts you would like USA to leave. Would you even care who would take your place?


That was quite the mindless asinine post.

Not that I expected more.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 06:23:00 PM »
The  problem is that Third World countries are gaining more and more control of the United Nations.  Since the majority of these countries are full of Violent, Stupid, Self-destructive people it's really hard to see the point of caring one way or the other.  

Better to just get out and forget it ever happened...  

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 06:25:50 PM »
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The  problem is that Third World countries are gaining more and more control of the United Nations.  Since the majority of these countries are full of Violent, Stupid, Self-destructive people it's really hard to see the point of caring one way or the other.  

Better to just get out and forget it ever happened...  

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can you tell me exactly why a "third" country would have less saying than another one? Because they are stupid?

Taking some triple K lessons of corresponcance by any chance, Otto?

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 06:28:39 PM »
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can you tell me exactly why a "third" country would have less saying than another one? Because they are stupid?

Taking some triple K lessons of corresponcance by any chance, Otto?



No, because they aren't a world power.

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 06:32:30 PM »
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No, because they aren't a world power.


Sorry, thats not the issue nor the essens, they need to have 2/3 of UNs 191 votes behind them.
And guess what, theres not enough banana republics left in the world to support ya, Martlet......as Iraq proved

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 06:34:16 PM »
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Sorry, thats not the issue nor the essens, they need to have 2/3 of UNs 191 votes behind them.
And guess what, theres not enough banana republics left in the world to support ya, Martlet......as Iraq proved


It certainly is the essence.  Are you even aware of why there are permanent SC members?

To have them be electable is pure idiocy.  It takes the UN that much further into the absurd.

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2005, 06:41:39 PM »
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It certainly is the essence.  Are you even aware of why there are permanent SC members?

To have them be electable is pure idiocy.  It takes the UN that much further into the absurd.


I canīt help it, USA where one of the countries that formed the rules of UN, kinda founding member, hate to see you leave, but.....
Playing by the rules where never a USA thing, was it? Not even when it was their own,,,,,,

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2005, 06:43:14 PM »
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I canīt help it, USA where one of the countries that formed the rules of UN, kinda founding member, hate to see you leave, but.....



I get it now.  You don't have anything to say.


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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2005, 06:51:09 PM »
Ok, after waving goodbye to Martlet , who just set of for a fishing trip, lets return to the Issue.

South Africa, a country Supressed by apartheid for many year, will it make history, taking a chair in the Security council?

Or will it be the "Arab" country Egypt?

Nigeria is a Dictatorship? (if it wasīnt changed since I last heard of it. "Yellow cake" might also say a little.)

I give South Africa my bet of grabbing that chair of as a permanent in SC. Something that Africa deserves.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2005, 06:59:47 PM »
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I canīt help it, USA where one of the countries that formed the rules of UN, kinda founding member, hate to see you leave,
 


No hard feelings on our part.  Send us a Postcard sometime...

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Re: African state new SC permanent member?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2005, 07:00:18 PM »
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South-Africa, Egypt or Nigeria, who would you like to see as new permanent member in SC of UN?


Why not Sudan?
Why not Uganda?
Why not Sierra Leone?

What guidelines are they planning on using for membership?

Population?
GDP?

Do they get a veto?

Do they get more than one vote ?

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2005, 07:01:16 PM »
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None.  Why would you make a nation that is completely insignificant a permanent member of the SC?  Why need to get rid of some that are already there.


Why not, France got a seat.