Author Topic: New Patch! (Read 3456 times)

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #90 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:01:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus

As for maneuvering flaps, non of the 190's (according to the manual) we capable of having the flaps extended in speed of 350Km/h or above (about 218mph). This is about 40-50mph heigher then what can currently be used in AH (unless it has been changed since I flew last time). It doesn't say what speeds the flaps can be deployed at though.

From what I've read the 190's had flaps that would (or could) be set to automatically deploy below certain speeds and then retract as speeds increased.

This was also a feature used on the f4f's. While not an intended feature, the f4f's utilized a vacuum system to deploy flaps, Above deployment speeds the vacume wasn't strong enough to deploy the flaps but as speeds decreases the flaps would deploy if the flap lever was set to say 1 notch. Navy pilots used this "feature" to help stay in a turn fight with the zekes.

Naudet · « **Reply #91 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:01:39 PM »

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As for turnradius though,...

I have found a small .txt file among my aircraft data which lists turn/corner times for the D9. The problem is i don't have a clue who forwarded this info to me back in 2002, but original documents at the german museum in Munich are given as source.
As i will visit the archive of the german museum in may for a couple of days, i may find the original document there and if yes i can confirm if the numbers are right.

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #92 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:17:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus

Not sure where you have heard the A8 will outturn the A5 and the Dora oututrn both of them, but it's wrong.

As for maneuvering flaps, non of the 190's (according to the manual) we capable of having the flaps extended in speed of 350Km/h or above (about 218mph). This is about 40-50mph heigher then what can currently be used in AH (unless it has been changed since I flew last time). It doesn't say what speeds the flaps can be deployed at though.

As for the 190's getting tuned up, don't get your hopes up. As to my undertstaning Pyro has said he will remodell them after LW charts (if I remember correct). This doesn't mean they will be improved though, just different. Much depends on what charts will be used but Pyro said that many of the charts he's got show the planes inferior (or atleast worse) then what we have now.

Before I had to take a paus from AH, shortly after 2.0 was isreleased, I found the 190's to be quite different from AH 1.x. Infact, for the first time in AH I felt they were real competative planes, closer to what many 190 pilots said they were.

Thank you for the informative reply. The only thing I know about the FW190s is what I read on the boards. I am not a LW buff, or even a WWII buff. My love is the crates of WW1, but there are no decent WWI sims out there. And AH is the best flying sim I've seen. To many gamey things about IL2 for me, but I only played it off line.

To me this icon move is gamey (hope I don't get deleted for flame again), for what is IMHO the premiere flight sim of WWII.

If we are going to get more realistic about the 190's FM it would then seem indicate that a move to another aircraft may be my best move. As I said, I am not a LW buff, I don't know anything about some "LW conspiracy" that was mentioned earlier. I just want a good competative ride in the MA, that doesn't have such a low eny that I can't fly it when numbers are high on the side I am flying on. I have to fly on the side the AK CO says to fly on, which is of course part of being in a squad

I am not liking the Dora, can't hit a thing in it

I am considering maybe a late model Jug, or a Typhie.

MANDO · « **Reply #93 on:** February 22, 2005, 05:37:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Normal flying weight of the two are more or less identical though of about 4300 kg.

4250 Kg for D9 with ETC504.
D9 chart
4300 Kg for A8 without ETC 501 and 4x20mm
A8 chart

And 4000 Kg for 4x20mm 190A5

D9 was not that heavier compared with A5 at all.

Wilbus · « **Reply #94 on:** February 23, 2005, 03:17:17 AM »

No Mando, not all that much, but it makes a difference, quite a big difference.

Please let me know when you have found the charts Naudet, could you mail me at "rasmus_friluft@yahoo.se" please? Won't have good access to the internet after this week (home for holliday) so won't be able to keep up woth the board.

AkFokerFoder, you need to give the 190's time, they can be difficult to get into, and to fly good but they are damn fun to fly once you learn them. If you still don't wanna take the time to learn them, and you choose from the Jug and the Tiffie, pick the Jug, it's by far the better fighter (although slower at most alt where it matters) and it's also very fun to fly.

As for the new icon system, although I haven't tried it yet, it does sound like it is a step in the wrong (for me atleast) direction, takes another fun aspect out of the game. We'll see when I get the chance to try it.

Naudet · « **Reply #95 on:** February 23, 2005, 06:17:49 AM »

Wilbus, as i said the trip to munich is in may, so you have to wait for atleast 9-10 weeks. If i find the charts or anything else interesing i will notify you.

A real sad thing is that there do not exist any performance measurements for D9 using either "Erhöhte Notleistung" or "MW50 Einspritzung".
All curves that show those speeds or climbrates are calculated ones.
Tests in Rechlin were done only with the normal Start-/Notleistung, which was cleared in September '44 for 30 Minutes use (which than makes it actually the climb/combat setting).

And for the TA152 the situation is very similar, so far i am not aware of any test flights of the TA152 with either MW50 or GM1.